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The Toyota looks like a Russian copy of a Toyota.

Spotted this magnificent thing


And finally a new Supra I like

I’d only seen them before in light colours which just draws attention to the overly fussy styling but in dark blue that all blends in and you just focus on the nicely rounded lines, arches in particular look amazing.

Mito Man wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:56 pm The Toyota looks like a Russian copy of a Toyota.

Spotted this magnificent thing

Only a 323i - we should save the "magnificent" for full Beany spec 330i really!

Rich B wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:38 am

Mito Man wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:56 pm The Toyota looks like a Russian copy of a Toyota.

Spotted this magnificent thing

Only a 323i - we should save the "magnificent" for full Beany spec 330i really!

Ooh I don't know. That one has its original Park Lane BMW dealer plates. +10 Kudos points just for that

I saw a white Lotus Europa ("new" style) this morning - it hasn't aged as well as the Elise or VX's imo.

GG. wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:43 am

Rich B wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:38 am

Mito Man wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:56 pm The Toyota looks like a Russian copy of a Toyota.

Spotted this magnificent thing
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Only a 323i - we should save the "magnificent" for full Beany spec 330i really!

Ooh I don't know. That one has its original Park Lane BMW dealer plates. +10 Kudos points just for that

It's not even an MSport.

I'll grant you, the roof is far cleaner than my one though

Rich B wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:46 am I saw a white Lotus Europa ("new" style) this morning - it hasn't aged as well as the Elise or VX's imo.

Rare - they didn’t sell well.

They never looked as good to me as the Elise/VX, and the aim of a friendlier more practical Elise wasn’t really realised from my perspective. I guess most prospective customers felt similar.

GG. wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:45 am No pics but saw an Alfa 8C Spider on the way into Oxford on Saturday - first 8C I've seen. Looked smaller than I expected.

Ooh, I love the 8C.

I saw a 4C at the weekend. They really look exotic; shame they're not as good a car as an Elise or Alpine A110 so no reason to buy one - and that's doubtless why they're quite rare - but they are lovely things to see out and about.

Beany wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:02 am It's not even an MSport.

I'll grant you, the roof is far cleaner than my one though

There was no MSport on E46s. They were just 'Sport', or M3.

Mito Man wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:56 pm The Toyota looks like a Russian copy of a Toyota.



And finally a new Supra I like

I’d only seen them before in light colours which just draws attention to the overly fussy styling but in dark blue that all blends in and you just focus on the nicely rounded lines, arches in particular look amazing.

I've yet to see either a new Z4 or a Supra.

Jobbo wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:37 am

Beany wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:02 am It's not even an MSport.

I'll grant you, the roof is far cleaner than my one though

There was no MSport on E46s. They were just 'Sport', or M3.

Every day is a school day!

Although sport did get you a smattering of M badges here and there just to confuse things further

Beany wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:04 pm

Jobbo wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:37 am

Beany wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:02 am It's not even an MSport.

I'll grant you, the roof is far cleaner than my one though

There was no MSport on E46s. They were just 'Sport', or M3.

Every day is a school day!

is it as clear cut as that? I remember reading a thread about it ages ago - someone said that the very late facelifts (so not Beanys one!) were M sport on the logbook? I got bored and didn't find out the conclusive answer.

Spotted a very mint looking Rover P5B V8 Coupe burbling down the high street, and a very, very well used Austin Princess 3 Litre Vanden Plas.

Rich B wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:29 pm

Beany wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:04 pm

Jobbo wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:37 am
There was no MSport on E46s. They were just 'Sport', or M3.

Every day is a school day!

is it as clear cut as that? I remember reading a thread about it ages ago - someone said that the very late facelifts (so not Beanys one!) were M sport on the logbook? I got bored and didn't find out the conclusive answer.

yeah, Parker's has M Sport from sept 2005.

mik wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:20 am

Rich B wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:46 am I saw a white Lotus Europa ("new" style) this morning - it hasn't aged as well as the Elise or VX's imo.

Rare - they didn’t sell well.

They never looked as good to me as the Elise/VX, and the aim of a friendlier more practical Elise wasn’t really realised from my perspective. I guess most prospective customers felt similar.

I like them, i think they look like a Elise/Evora Hybrid and they are much more practical than an Elise as in i can fit in one

You rarely see them for sale now though but nice low mile cars seem to fetch big money (£20k+)

I'd have one

The last one I saw in silver I thought had aged far better than the fussy s2 Elise and the cardboard box vx220.

Rich B wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:35 pm

Rich B wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:29 pm

Beany wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:04 pm

Every day is a school day!

is it as clear cut as that? I remember reading a thread about it ages ago - someone said that the very late facelifts (so not Beanys one!) were M sport on the logbook? I got bored and didn't find out the conclusive answer.

yeah, Parker's has M Sport from sept 2005.

After the saloon and Touring ceased production, the coupe and cab stayed in production and they were renamed MSport, yes - it was a complete switch across BMW’s range to name them MSport not Sport from, I think, the 2006 model year. But the badging didn’t change and people get wonderfully wound up when they are told their car isn’t an MSport

So in conclusion, there in fact were E46 M Sports.

Schools out.

The M Sport badge, can probably pinpoint that to the period of time when BMW started to become aspirational to chavs

Mito Man wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:44 pm The M Sport badge, can probably pinpoint that to the period of time when BMW started to become aspirational to chavs

What M Sport badge?