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Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:00 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:40 am A quick Google suggests average mileage at scrappage is 106,000 miles and 14 years old.
:shock:

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm
by Rich B
It’s averages though - For every example that lasts 200k there’ll be another written off coming out of the dealership.

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 pm
by mik
Rich B wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm It’s averages though
I quite often say to people “the main problem is that 50% of the population are below average intelligence”.

About half of them get the joke.... ;)

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:17 pm
by NotoriousREV
Rich B wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:48 am
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:53 am So we’re scrapping, sorry I mean recycling, new Golfs after 125,000 miles now, are we?
nope. Only 106k on average.
If only someone had posted this 8 minutes before you in the post immediately before yours.

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:18 pm
by mik
Rich’s joke ==>

<== Rev

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:36 pm
by NotoriousREV
mik wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:18 pm Rich’s joke ==>

<== Rev's joke
Mik =============================>

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:46 pm
by Rich B
mik wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:18 pm Rich’s joke ==>

<== Rev
He’s not with it today is he!

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:59 pm
by Beany
I had to go back and check meself, TBH.

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:30 pm
by NotoriousREV
You all seem surprised that I was arguing with myself.

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:02 pm
by simon_g
mik wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:45 am
Some questionable assumptions in that. It does include “well to wheel” for the fuel but a very low end estimate, and assumes the diesel will be as efficient as it’s official test all the time (lol). Also the electricity for the EV is already much cleaner than estimated and improving all the time.

This analysis puts it as sub 25k km for the eGolf to be better, and of course this is just CO2 - the eGolf doesn’t do NOx, particulates, etc that are harmful to health.



Besides, if you’re buying a Golf you’d need your head examining to buy a diesel one. Horrible.

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:07 pm
by Marv
simon_g wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:02 pm
Besides, if you’re buying a Golf you’d need your head examining to buy a diesel one. Horrible.
Hi Simon! 🙋‍♂️

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:40 pm
by simon_g
:D new ones at least. PHEV if you can plug in but need to do really long trips, else get a petrol.

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:57 pm
by nuttinnew

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:27 pm
by nuttinnew

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:33 pm
by Mito Man
Ich bin ein Deutchlanden tehniq.

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:01 pm
by Barry
Not really sure what's going on there but I will say that I've noticed the tyres on my Ioniq don't offer a great deal of straight line grip, I can upset the TCS easily off the line, and the ABS has cut in a few times lately where I know my Civic would have just hauled up to a stop with no drama. Granted it's fitted with low drag tyres for efficiency but I can see now why it's fitted with eleventy driver and safety aids, it bloody needs em :roll:

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:12 pm
by mik
I'm pretty sure all the low-friction tyres used on these cars are just rebranded P6000s.

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:36 pm
by mr_jon
Leaf has arrived and apart from a stupidly wonky rear plate everything seems fine! Only driven a few miles before putting on charge but had a quick go with the e-pedal (found it hard not to still cover the brake), 360degree cam is ace, it's quite a lot faster than the Zoe and much, much quieter to charge (ie. silent).

We have the Zoe on risk till Wednesday and are both working/school running tomorrow so we plan to have a double EV day at it. It's as if we have become Gods :lol:

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:09 pm
by mr_jon
2hr clean-up of the Zoe including plenty of white spirit to de-tar it, and off we went to the local dealer who sold it to us in the first place. He gets a cheap car to make a margin on, we get a no-hassle sale for a £400 loss for 2 1/2 years and 20k of motoring. Will take that. Bonked on my 10k run before school pick-up as I'd spent too much energy on the clean-up, but them's the breaks.

The Leaf is excellent. Best bit so far is silent charging with zero feedback through the house electrics. The Zoe spins the motor to convert AC to DC, believe it or not (think Bueller) so is noisy and feedback-y. Driving it, it just feels like a normal car but costs almost nowt to run. Still got to get the hairdryer out this weekend to sort that number plate out.

Cheers,
Jon

Re: The EV Apocalypse

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:37 pm
by Barry
Finally got my 7kw charger working this afternoon, the smart aspect wasn't connecting to the network but we managed to get it to wake up. Still no smart tech, it needs a signal booster apparently, but at least I can charge reasonably quickly now.

The Rolec makes rather disturbing "crack/pop" when it initiates charge too, but nothing has tripped so I can only assume it's normal for something kicking 7kw in.

600 miles into EV life now, effortless motability for the daily drudge, as intended. I can't quite ignore the "EVO" side of my brain though, and this car is no sports car so I'm glad I kept the Civic on. Depending on track bike use/fun driving potential I might swap the Civic for a van or something a little more "midlife crisis" in the near future. MX5/Boxster appeals still, but then so does a Transit/similar :lol: