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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:56 am
by dinny_g
Don't think it's a Joke...

Self Employed doing cash in hand jobs, not paying tax but now being bailed out by the taxpayer or summat ??

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:58 am
by NotoriousREV
The joke is that those self-employed that did cash in hand jobs and failed to declare their real profit/income will only get 80% of the average monthly profit they actually declared.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:01 am
by Mito Man
Oof, my electrician won’t be happy 😂

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:15 am
by dinny_g
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:58 am The joke is that those self-employed that did cash in hand jobs and failed to declare their real profit/income will only get 80% of the average monthly profit they actually declared.
ah - makes more sense... :lol:

I was never going to get the subtlety, was I... ;)

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:40 am
by Gwaredd
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:58 am The joke is that those self-employed that did cash in hand jobs and failed to declare their real profit/income will only get 80% of the average monthly profit they actually declared.
This. I actually know a few people who actually bragged about this & how their tax bill was zero as "they'd made a loss".

I guess they won't be too happy this morning. I just hope they had some of that cash stored away for a rainy day & didn't blow it all on a fancy Range Rover or new kitchen. Oh. Wait...

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:41 am
by Rich B
Exactly, the jokes on those who played the system before. Other than that, self employed need exactly the same support as employed.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:49 am
by Mito Man
Gwaredd wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:40 am
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:58 am The joke is that those self-employed that did cash in hand jobs and failed to declare their real profit/income will only get 80% of the average monthly profit they actually declared.
This. I actually know a few people who actually bragged about this & how their tax bill was zero as "they'd made a loss".

I guess they won't be too happy this morning. I just hope they had some of that cash stored away for a rainy day & didn't blow it all on a fancy Range Rover or new kitchen. Oh. Wait...
This describes my friend to a tee. Except he managed to go a step further by never declaring any income, then he put his house on the market and wanted to upgrade but ended up being unable to get a mortgage for obvious reasons. Then he bought a new Range Rover, did an extension to the old house and spent the rest on a fancy watch.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:55 am
by duncs500
Rich B wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:41 am Exactly, the jokes on those who played the system before.
The ones that haven't retired already. :-D

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:02 am
by GG.
Mito Man wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:49 am
Gwaredd wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:40 am
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:58 am The joke is that those self-employed that did cash in hand jobs and failed to declare their real profit/income will only get 80% of the average monthly profit they actually declared.
This. I actually know a few people who actually bragged about this & how their tax bill was zero as "they'd made a loss".

I guess they won't be too happy this morning. I just hope they had some of that cash stored away for a rainy day & didn't blow it all on a fancy Range Rover or new kitchen. Oh. Wait...
This describes my friend to a tee. Except he managed to go a step further by never declaring any income, then he put his house on the market and wanted to upgrade but ended up being unable to get a mortgage for obvious reasons. Then he bought a new Range Rover, did an extension to the old house and spent the rest on a fancy watch.
The UK could do an awful lot more to clamp down on people with inexplicable wealth comparative to their income - there has been a test case though:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50763204

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:07 am
by Mito Man
GG. wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:02 am
Mito Man wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:49 am
Gwaredd wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:40 am

This. I actually know a few people who actually bragged about this & how their tax bill was zero as "they'd made a loss".

I guess they won't be too happy this morning. I just hope they had some of that cash stored away for a rainy day & didn't blow it all on a fancy Range Rover or new kitchen. Oh. Wait...
This describes my friend to a tee. Except he managed to go a step further by never declaring any income, then he put his house on the market and wanted to upgrade but ended up being unable to get a mortgage for obvious reasons. Then he bought a new Range Rover, did an extension to the old house and spent the rest on a fancy watch.
The UK could do an awful lot more to clamp down on people with inexplicable wealth comparative to their income - there has been a test case though:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50763204
Yeah but I won’t rat him out. He’s pretty unstable, had a messy divorce 5 years ago, felt that the courts hung him out to dry and that’s where it all started really. Good guy but I think he’s actually been traumatised and thinks the government is out to get him since all that happened.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:20 am
by Zonda_
A door handle has broken, it's marvellous, I have a task!

On the down side I'm thinking if this goes on much longer I won't be able to get a haircut...

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:25 am
by dinny_g
Im looking at a section of my garage going “I could arrange all that stuff in a different way” 😂

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:27 am
by Sundayjumper
Zonda_ wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:20 am On the down side I'm thinking if this goes on much longer I won't be able to get a haircut...
Do it yourself !

One Christmas holiday, while my wife was out for the evening, I decided to cut my own hair. She has never let me forget.

(I maaaay have had a couple of drinks that night...)

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:46 am
by Zonda_
Sundayjumper wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:27 am
Zonda_ wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:20 am On the down side I'm thinking if this goes on much longer I won't be able to get a haircut...
Do it yourself !

One Christmas holiday, while my wife was out for the evening, I decided to cut my own hair. She has never let me forget.

(I maaaay have had a couple of drinks that night...)
I’ll have to, but the only thing I can do clipper it and it will have to be extremely short otherwise it stick out at the sides. It took me years to find a barber that could do it properly.

On another note, is anyone else experiencing inexplicable weight loss, I dropped a pound on each of the last 4 days!

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:58 am
by Sundayjumper
I've not weighed myself but I imagine I will be going in the opposite direction.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:59 am
by Beany
I'm not really getting any more or less exercise, but I am snacking less so that probably won't hurt!

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:05 am
by Swervin_Mervin
Sundayjumper wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:58 am I've not weighed myself but I imagine I will be going in the opposite direction.
Yeah this. I reckon there's a good chance I'll succumb to liver failure before coronavirus at this rate :lol:

I'm also predicting there'l' be two Coronavirus haircut types referred to by future historians:

The caveman look for those that just haven't had a haircut for months:

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And the butchered look for those that did try to cut their hair themselves:

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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:06 am
by Beany
Eh, just buzz it back, it's not like you're going to have any meetings for a few weeks ;)

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:18 am
by Simon
They're just saying on the radio that BoJo has it.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:32 am
by mik