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Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:52 am
by mik
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:23 am
Jobbo wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 pm
Surely there’s a ready market for an engine from a classic Le Mans car now; sell it and pay off the mortgage?
I’d much rather have it than pay the mortgage off a bit earlier. You’re a long time dead and paying off the mortgage would be quite an anti-climax I feel.
Dave!
I’m guessing it makes around 700bhp & 600lbs.ft?
Is that possible for road use, or would you need to pull it down for emissions, or for useability? (I assume they were originally expected to be stripped down and rebuilt every x running hours?)
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:13 am
by Sundayjumper
Can we change the forum joke from “drop an LS in there” to “drop a Sauber in there” ?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:27 am
by V8Granite
Why not, sounds less Redneck
Mik it should in theory run better than it did before as boost, fuel and ignition control is so much better now.
Dave!
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:49 am
by Beany
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:13 am
Can we change the forum joke from “drop an LS in there” to “drop a Sauber in there” ?
Given how long Dave has been planning/attempting/failing at this, surely it already is a forum joke?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:50 am
by Jobbo
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:23 am
Jobbo wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 pm
Surely there’s a ready market for an engine from a classic Le Mans car now; sell it and pay off the mortgage?
I’d much rather have it than pay the mortgage off a bit earlier. You’re a long time dead and paying off the mortgage would be quite an anti-climax I feel.
Dave!
Yes, it must have given you a lot of pleasure sat in your parents' garage under a sheet for 10 years
Don't pay off the mortgage then, sell it and buy an AMG GT
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:52 am
by Rich B
What sort of money is this beasty worth?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:57 am
by Jobbo
My guess would be quite a lot, Rich, but that is entirely a guess. These sort of things just don't become available, surely? And every now and again someone with a classic Le Mans car may require a new engine to run at the Festival of Speed or whatever.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:59 am
by V8Granite
Jobbo wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:50 am
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:23 am
Jobbo wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 pm
Surely there’s a ready market for an engine from a classic Le Mans car now; sell it and pay off the mortgage?
I’d much rather have it than pay the mortgage off a bit earlier. You’re a long time dead and paying off the mortgage would be quite an anti-climax I feel.
Dave!
Yes, it must have given you a lot of pleasure sat in your parents' garage under a sheet for 10 years
Don't pay off the mortgage then, sell it and buy an AMG GT
No different to all the other crap I keep
Dave!
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:09 am
by Rich B
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:59 am
Jobbo wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:50 am
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:23 am
I’d much rather have it than pay the mortgage off a bit earlier. You’re a long time dead and paying off the mortgage would be quite an anti-climax I feel.
Dave!
Yes, it must have given you a lot of pleasure sat in your parents' garage under a sheet for 10 years
Don't pay off the mortgage then, sell it and buy an AMG GT
No different to all the other crap I keep
Dave!
i'm guessing the wife doesn't know about it then Dave?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:12 am
by V8Granite
Rich B wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:52 am
What sort of money is this beasty worth?
If someone offered me 30k tomorrow I’d sell it but that’s hugely doubtful it’s worth anywhere near that. I know it’ll be close to 5 k for a re-fresh including turbos, then once you get wastegates and a full management, dash system for it then I’d be looking at 10k all in.
Or hopefully time and finances permitting I’ll be hearing it sing while I arc across a lake in Scotland with my kids with me.
Dave!
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:12 am
by V8Granite
Rich B wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:09 am
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:59 am
Jobbo wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:50 am
Yes, it must have given you a lot of pleasure sat in your parents' garage under a sheet for 10 years
Don't pay off the mortgage then, sell it and buy an AMG GT
No different to all the other crap I keep
Dave!
i'm guessing the wife doesn't know about it then Dave?
She came with me to collect it
Dave!
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:30 am
by Swervin_Mervin
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:12 am
Rich B wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:52 am
What sort of money is this beasty worth?
If someone offered me 30k tomorrow I’d sell it but that’s hugely doubtful it’s worth anywhere near that. I know it’ll be close to 5 k for a re-fresh including turbos, then once you get wastegates and a full management, dash system for it then I’d be looking at 10k all in.
Or hopefully time and finances permitting I’ll be hearing it sing while I arc across a lake in Scotland with my kids with me.
Dave!
On the basis a C8/C9 is probably worth £millions, I would've thought the heart of the beast would be worth a LOT more than £30k, even just to sit around as a spare
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:31 am
by V8Granite
I shall try and find out but I think it will be far far less than people think.
Dave!
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:37 am
by Swervin_Mervin
£1.3-2.1m guide price back in 2008
That's only going to have gone up
You should get on to Johnny Smith - he'd probably love to cover something like this
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:39 am
by Sundayjumper
Insurance renewal time. £1,803.70. That's £120 more than last year. Doesn't seem too bad.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:45 am
by GG.
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:39 am
Insurance renewal time. £1,803.70. That's £120 more than last year. Doesn't seem too bad.
Is that for all of them? That's about a tenner per car isn't it
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:54 am
by V8Granite
That is the far superior and mighty M119 though that lives in my 500e.
Right, we all know the M117 in the far cooler Sauber C8 is worth more. Can I start the bidding at £1,000,000 ?
Dave!
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:31 am
by Sundayjumper
GG. wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:45 am
Is that for all of them? That's about a tenner per car isn't it
Damm, you immediately saw through my slightly lame attempt at misdirection
Yes, that's for all of them. Having done the analysis (we all
love the analysis) the increase is all down to changing vehicles. Looks like it would have been a decent drop otherwise.
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740d - £ 98.18
Vanatge - £ 21.86
Cayenne + £146.46 (instead of Touareg)
Cooper S + £ 64.61 (instead of ONE)
Scimitar + £ 66.18 (new addition)
996 - £ 22.74
Compact - £ 14.03
TOTAL + £120.45
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:41 am
by Swervin_Mervin
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:54 am
That is the far superior and mighty M119 though that lives in my 500e.
Right, we all know the M117 in the far cooler Sauber C8 is worth more. Can I start the bidding at £1,000,000 ?
Dave!
They list the M117 for that particular C9, and a few others that have been for sale specifically list the M117. Is that not the case? Wiki suggests the C9 used both M117 and M119
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:14 pm
by V8Granite
Ooh I never knew that, I always thought the M119 was the only engine ever in the C9.
I’ll do some feelers tonight but thought that Mercedes got more involved with the C9 and also used it as a platform for showing off the new M119.
Dave!
