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Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:47 am
by KiwiDave
I fitted PIAA Aero Flex silicon wiper blades and they're fucking marvelous.

Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:44 am
by Explosive Newt
Jag saga update
Dropped off for electrical gremlin chase and brake wobble. After a delay waiting for parts, new electrical junction box and discs/pads fitted.
Then one of their valet parkers drives a range rover into it, breaking the front bumper. Further delay while this is sorted.
Then they order the wrong paint for the bumper, further delay.
Finally pick it up after three weeks. Make grumpy noises and get 15% off.
Bad google review later, service manager phones me, offers 50% off the upcoming service. Said I would consider it.
Next day, ABS warning light comes on. I say this is a bit fishy given brake work done. So they do service (including aux drive belt) and repair/replace ABS for free.
Four days after collecting, as I am pulling into the driveway, engine suddenly starts making a rattling/clacking noise, like something is loose. I pop the bonnet in search of answers and notice fibres of something being ejected from the side of the engine. I figure aux drive belt is the culprit - misaligned/tensioner failed/harmonic balancer out/whatever?
I thought about giving up on Jag and going to my local indy but I can only assume this relates to the work on the aux belt. If not, I may be in for a hefty bill of course (or something that gives them wiggle room - new belt on old tensioner causing the latter to fail?).
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:46 am
by 16vCento
Picture?
If the old belt was fine then shouldn't be any issues if they've put a new one on old tensioner etcs unless they haven't fit it correctly, or used wrong belt.
I'd ring them and get them to pick it up.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:49 am
by Beany
KiwiDave wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:47 am
I fitted PIAA Aero Flex silicon wiper blades and they're fucking marvelous.
They are rather good.
I used rainx on the car a few weeks ago - half of it has gone 'off' on the windscreen already. Bit of a waste of time there.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:07 am
by Explosive Newt
16vCento wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:46 am
Picture?
If the old belt was fine then shouldn't be any issues if they've put a new one on old tensioner etcs unless they haven't fit it correctly, or used wrong belt.
I'd ring them and get them to pick it up.
Got a video, can I upload that on here? I figured if they had fitted it incorrectly it would act up straight away, rather than after a period of 40 miles' driving?
I gingerly drove it back (probably foolishly) during the England match. We'll see what they say today.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:24 pm
by jamcg
Explosive Newt wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:07 am
16vCento wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:46 am
Picture?
If the old belt was fine then shouldn't be any issues if they've put a new one on old tensioner etcs unless they haven't fit it correctly, or used wrong belt.
I'd ring them and get them to pick it up.
Got a video, can I upload that on here? I figured if they had fitted it incorrectly it would act up straight away, rather than after a period of 40 miles' driving?
I gingerly drove it back (probably foolishly) during the England match. We'll see what they say today.
Think you’ll have to put it on YouTube first, maybe easier to put in the ov9 Facebook page?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:45 pm
by V8Granite
Explosive Newt wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:07 am
16vCento wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:46 am
Picture?
If the old belt was fine then shouldn't be any issues if they've put a new one on old tensioner etcs unless they haven't fit it correctly, or used wrong belt.
I'd ring them and get them to pick it up.
Got a video, can I upload that on here? I figured if they had fitted it incorrectly it would act up straight away, rather than after a period of 40 miles' driving?
I gingerly drove it back (probably foolishly) during the England match. We'll see what they say today.
I had exactly this, I was having some work done when I was away and my tensioner then failed after about 5 miles. Apparently this is when it’s wrenched over too far (mine was untensioned with a 1/2” drive) and the tensioner then fails quickly as it’s been over-extended the wrong way.
May be worth looking at, also, tensioner do just fail when they have been disturbed so it could also be from natural wear and tear if the schedule called for a belt.
Dave!
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:54 pm
by Explosive Newt
V8Granite wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:45 pm
Explosive Newt wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:07 am
16vCento wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:46 am
Picture?
If the old belt was fine then shouldn't be any issues if they've put a new one on old tensioner etcs unless they haven't fit it correctly, or used wrong belt.
I'd ring them and get them to pick it up.
Got a video, can I upload that on here? I figured if they had fitted it incorrectly it would act up straight away, rather than after a period of 40 miles' driving?
I gingerly drove it back (probably foolishly) during the England match. We'll see what they say today.
I had exactly this, I was having some work done when I was away and my tensioner then failed after about 5 miles. Apparently this is when it’s wrenched over too far (mine was untensioned with a 1/2” drive) and the tensioner then fails quickly as it’s been over-extended the wrong way.
May be worth looking at, also, tensioner do just fail when they have been disturbed so it could also be from natural wear and tear if the schedule called for a belt.
Dave!
That sounds like it makes sense, time-wise. Still waiting on the report from the garage. A small bit of my brain is panicking that it will be something coincidental, unrelated and expensive, so your words are soothing.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:53 pm
by Explosive Newt
They said the accessory belt had "shredded" which was either a defect with the belt or it not being fitted properly - either way their fault. Will pick the car up on Friday and hopefully that is the end of things.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:58 pm
by Mito Man
Bloody hell that's some series of fvck ups on their behalf. I remember being vocally surprised at the vast scale of Saxton when I first went there to view the Defender which I then bought. The chap said the reason they're so successful is that they're basically the only place you can buy a JLR product with decent customer service

Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:09 pm
by Explosive Newt
Just as well I am moving back to Cambridge, hopefully that will be a less hostile Jag environment.... maybe....
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:13 am
by Sundayjumper
I ordered some bits for the Cayenne from Rose Passion in NE France. Order placed 11:45 Monday, parts on my desk 10:00 Thursday
Design911 take note !!!!
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:25 am
by GG.
Sundayjumper wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:13 am
Rose Passion in NE France.
Good shout - they seem to have the rear light I need in stock and that's unavailable in the UK. £50 premium over Eurocarparts price tho.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:54 am
by Jobbo
This is by no means my favourite photo of my car so I thought this was the best place for it. First time I've got the entire monochrome fleet (excluding the blue Glaucoma) on the drive at the same time without one being hidden in the garage or out.
I keep thinking about what will replace the CLS but I'm almost tempted to take it to 200k miles, or buy a facelift version so it can go into the centre of Birmingham without paying the £8 low emissions zone fee. I'll definitely miss it when I change it.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:15 am
by Coaster1
@Jobbo
The CLS still looks as fresh as when it was first launch.
Remind me please, what MY is the Mini? Is that a Cooper? (Your stepdaughter) happy with it? Reliable?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:16 am
by Coaster1
GG. wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:25 am
Sundayjumper wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:13 am
Rose Passion in NE France.
Good shout - they seem to have the rear light I need in stock and that's unavailable in the UK. £50 premium over Eurocarparts price tho.
Not heard of them before. Good to know.


Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:20 am
by Jobbo
Coaster1 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:15 am
@Jobbo
The CLS still looks as fresh as when it was first launch.
Remind me please, what MY is the Mini? Is that a Cooper? (Your stepdaughter) happy with it? Reliable?
She hasn't passed her test yet so it doesn't get used much. It's a 2009 model Cooper 1.6 auto. Reliable? Well I bought it knowing there were a few issues which have been fixed at a sensible cost, though whenever I drive it it throws a check engine light. Reading the codes it's a cam angle sensor which is about £20 and easy to fit, so I'll fix that and see if there's anything else amiss when I drive it next.
Some of the bits of trim inside (the big chrome ring round the centre dial, the handbrake handle) are a bit loose, but things like the frameless windows which drop half an inch on opening a door work fine. So I'd say it's a mixed bag in terms of quality

Feels solid though.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:25 am
by Coaster1
Thanks

Window shopping at the moment.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:35 am
by Jobbo
There are some very optimistic prices being asked for that generation of Mini. Do check out potential issues with the turbo engine if going for a Cooper S; they look good value though since they're not so popular as a first car. And whenever I've had them as courtesy cars I've loved them.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:06 pm
by 16vCento
Coaster1 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:25 am
Thanks

Window shopping at the moment.
They have the ability to throw very big bills at you if you don't do your own work on your car, and then, even if you do!
The R53 pre 2006 Cooper S is a much more reliable car driveline wise, but then you have more electrical issues with them.
If I had my time again, as much fun as my R56 S was, especially after it had a BHP bump, I'd have bought something else.
Probably if it was in these times, a Swift Sport 1.4t.