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Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:37 pm
by Mark_bt52
Not keen on the retro styling at all, would have preferred it to look more like the two cars that followed the original A110.
But that weight with that gearbox would tempt me away from a Lotus.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:28 pm
by PaulJ
I'm starting to warm to this more and more, and would swallow the price if they had offered a manual 'box. I also don't mind the 4-cylinders on it as I had no expectations of anything else. I suspect the depreciation may be a little savage though, and will stick with my 981 GTS for the time being, but I am a sucker for light and small...
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:11 pm
by Coaster1
Mark_bt52 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:37 pm
Not keen on the retro styling at all, would have preferred it to look more like the two cars that followed the original A110.
But that weight with that gearbox would tempt me away from a Lotus.
I’d have mine in white to hide its slightly awkward headlights.
I’m still a fan, but seeing how shallow the front boot is and the ‘warm’ rear boot have dented its everyday usefulness somewhat.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:33 pm
by speedingfine
Dang, that Alpine review is convincing, where do I sign
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:56 am
by unzippy
Jobbo wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:29 am I guess he's just there to supervise really; next step will be for him to sit at the corner of 4 fields, with a self-driving tractor in each. We're basically there in terms of technology already.
Then unemployment.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:31 am
by Jimmy Choo
I saw that Alpine on the A40 last week. It looks even better in the metal.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:01 pm
by Jobbo
I have pangs for the Alpine - if I hadn't ended up meeting my wife, I'd have one by now. And what have I got to show for it? Oh yes, a wedding ring and a second house, but ignoring that...
Having said that, the way the engine is so enclosed, the fans required to cool the turbo down and the very public fire make me a little concerned about the Alpine's longevity.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:17 pm
by mik
Somebody buy one ffs.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:20 pm
by GG.
Jobbo wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:01 pm
Having said that, the way the engine is so enclosed, the fans required to cool the turbo down and the very public fire make me a little concerned about the Alpine's longevity.
Although wasn't that fire caused by a fuel leak rather than overheating (though obviously I would equally be concerned about the turbo/fan point).
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:20 pm
by Rich B
I have zero desire for one. However, I haven’t seen Harry’s vid yet - I’ll watch it and report back if I have changed.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:29 pm
by GG.
If I had £50k burning a hole in my pocket and I wanted an Alpine I'd rather have this (and a Golf R as a daily hack), I think:
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1027000
ETA: Jobson you have lots of space on your drive and this one is only £30k...
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:37 pm
by JLv3.0
A610 for me, always loved them. Although for the sake of a set of different, less cancerous, rims, this is also pretty awesome -
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C942652
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:39 pm
by GG.
Also available within the £50 budget (as near as makes no difference) but in RHD:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... es/8329449
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:41 pm
by JLv3.0
I was just looking at that one but on an ad where it had been sold - wonder if they made anything like the asking for it!
PS it's a 50
k budget
- bloody lawyers, always shit at numbers
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:43 pm
by NotoriousREV
Jobbo wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:01 pm
Having said that, the way the engine is so enclosed, the fans required to cool the turbo down and the very public fire make me a little concerned about the Alpine's longevity.
You really can't use a one-off event with a pre-production mule to determine production car reliability. Even Chris Harris said "There’s probably no project in the history of automotive manufacturing that’s not had a fire – it happens. It was a pre-production car and it’s just one of those things that you tolerate. If manufacturers are going to be brave enough to let us into stuff early, then sometimes things go wrong. And it’ll happen to me again."
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:55 pm
by GG.
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:43 pm
Jobbo wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:01 pm
Having said that, the way the engine is so enclosed, the fans required to cool the turbo down and the very public fire make me a little concerned about the Alpine's longevity.
You really can't use a one-off event with a pre-production mule to determine production car reliability. Even Chris Harris said "There’s probably no project in the history of automotive manufacturing that’s not had a fire – it happens. It was a pre-production car and it’s just one of those things that you tolerate. If manufacturers are going to be brave enough to let us into stuff early, then sometimes things go wrong. And it’ll happen to me again."
All of this is true but nonetheless, it wasn't a
small fire was it
The R8 V10 did something similar round the nurburgring though didn't it.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:18 pm
by NotoriousREV
GG. wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:55 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:43 pm
Jobbo wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:01 pm
Having said that, the way the engine is so enclosed, the fans required to cool the turbo down and the very public fire make me a little concerned about the Alpine's longevity.
You really can't use a one-off event with a pre-production mule to determine production car reliability. Even Chris Harris said "There’s probably no project in the history of automotive manufacturing that’s not had a fire – it happens. It was a pre-production car and it’s just one of those things that you tolerate. If manufacturers are going to be brave enough to let us into stuff early, then sometimes things go wrong. And it’ll happen to me again."
All of this is true but nonetheless, it wasn't a
small fire was it
The R8 V10 did something similar round the nurburgring though didn't it.
Production GT3 RSs and Ferrari 458s (IIRC) production cars went on fire a lot, and I don't see their popularity waning any.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:23 pm
by Jobbo
While I don't think a fuel leak is a genuine concern, Harry mentioned:
- the rear boot getting rather warm
- the engine being encapsulated pretty thoroughly
- those two fans which run constantly to cool the turbo
It doesn't seem particularly elegant engineering to me. I'd still love one.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:24 pm
by Jobbo
I wonder how much the fans to cool the turbo affect the pressure at the bottom of the rear screen?
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:30 pm
by JLv3.0
Depends on the wipers.