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The excellent John Burn-Murdoch of the FT

Oh, and LOL at the SNP. Nice to see nationalism getting a kick in the teeth.

And whilst it's good that we actually have some adults in charge now, I'm not 'excited' by the Labour front bench - I really don't think they are the best the country has to offer. Sure, they won't be as shockingly shit and self serving as those heading for the exit door, but I also don't think they're dynamic and full of initiative and good ideas.

Still think this isn’t a GE that Labour won but one the Conservatives have lost

dinny_g wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:06 pm Still think this isn’t a GE that Labour won but one the Conservatives have lost

the conservatives definitely "won" in 2019 - and look where that lying sack of "charismatic" shit Boris is now.

I don't want a flamboyant campaigner to "win" it, I'd rather have a clever guy with integrity take the win by letting the opposition showman expose his own lies.

I didn't vote labour, but I'm satisfied with the outcome.

Yeah I voted Lib Dem, because our candidate is actually really good, and it looks like he'll take it from the Tories - my brother's even been canvassing for them, and it's the only party to actually show up at my front door and talk to me. Labour stuck a token leaflet through the door, as did the tories.

I saw fucking no-one. I might have missed them at previous elections, but for local elections, and now this election, not a single knock on the door.

Labour have held this seat since 2010 though so it's a bit of a safe bet, but it would have been nice to have the conservative candidate turn up so I could tell them to fuck off and play in traffic.

Turnout 53%

That’s pretty shocking.

I really do hope they take note.

I very much doubt any of them will.

mik wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:45 pm Turnout 53%

That’s pretty shocking.

Jesus fuck.

dinny_g wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:06 pm Still think this isn’t a GE that Labour won but one the Conservatives have lost

That's what the results are bearing out so far. The combined Con/Reform vote is very very close to the Lab vote. Lab haven't won back the voters they lost to the Cons in 2019

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:11 am

dinny_g wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:06 pm Still think this isn’t a GE that Labour won but one the Conservatives have lost

That's what the results are bearing out so far. The combined Con/Reform vote is very very close to the Lab vote. Lab haven't won back the voters they lost to the Cons in 2019

what are the figures you're basing that on?

Labour took my constituency from the snp, along with most of the central belt.

Nice to see Corbyn keep his seat.

dinny_g wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:06 pm Still think this isn’t a GE that Labour won but one the Conservatives have lost

I think 2019 wasn’t an election the Conservatives won but which Brexit won. But the large majority is what goes down in history and someone has to lose for someone else to win.

What is telling is that Jeremy Hunt kept his seat - with a majority less than 1000 - because he actively campaigned and knocked on doors for the past 6 weeks. Iain Duncan-Smith did too. We kept our Tory MP who is not tainted with scandal or self-serving grifting. There are (were) far too few Tories who fitted that description and that is why they lost. Though Sir Gavin Williamson won, to my surprise, despite being awful and ineffective. So satisfying to see Rees-Mogg go; his disdain is what lost him his seat.

Now, time for the Tories to rebuild and realise that they’ve lost more votes to Labour than Reform - so move towards the centre not the far right.

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:11 am

dinny_g wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:06 pm Still think this isn’t a GE that Labour won but one the Conservatives have lost

That's what the results are bearing out so far. The combined Con/Reform vote is very very close to the Lab vote. Lab haven't won back the voters they lost to the Cons in 2019

I think you’re looking at one or two constituencies without considering the detail here. The variation per constituency is very interesting indeed.

The Reform vote share is crazy. More individual votes than the Liberals for like 5% of the seats.

ZedLeg wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am The Reform vote share is crazy. More individual votes than the Liberals for like 5% of the seats.

to be fair, we all knew they'd get a lot of votes, I'm actually surprised at how many seats they won.

I’m just glad the pre election predictions of 10+ seats seems unlikely at this point.

The only one I saw was Lee Anderson, which seemed to be a given.

Simon wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:02 pm The excellent John Burn-Murdoch of the FT

this tweet is aging like milk. Labour are on 406 currently...

mik wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:45 pm Turnout 53%

That’s pretty shocking.

67% in my constituency. I expect that means there'll be other ones that have a percentage that much lower than the average too...

60% now according to the BBC