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Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:15 pm

Rich B wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:58 pm Yippee, more over-styled shit boxes....

That's a concept in the attached article.

I'd argue that EV gives us a chance for some daring styling tbh, why not do some retro, some futuristic, whatever. I don't want an EV 3 series, I want that concept they showed off.

Barry wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:28 pm

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:15 pm

Rich B wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:58 pm Yippee, more over-styled shit boxes....

That's a concept in the attached article.

I'd argue that EV gives us a chance for some daring styling tbh, why not do some retro, some futuristic, whatever. I don't want an EV 3 series, I want that concept they showed off.

But they won't. They'll just do another standard shitbox clad with some over styled retro looking hatchback body panels over a very normal construction chassis, but more LED twinkley lights to show it's modern.

On the positive side my energy supplier has just launched a new EV tariff. Based on last year's consumption we can save nearly a grand (just shy of 30%) by switching and keeping the same usage profile. So I've switched.

I'm glad we've got an EV because otherwise we couldn't benefit (so much. Tariff is open to all).

Rich B wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:34 pm

Barry wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:28 pm

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:15 pm

That's a concept in the attached article.

I'd argue that EV gives us a chance for some daring styling tbh, why not do some retro, some futuristic, whatever. I don't want an EV 3 series, I want that concept they showed off.

But they won't. They'll just do another standard shitbox clad with some over styled retro looking hatchback body panels over a very normal construction chassis, but more LED twinkley lights to show it's modern.

Call me cynical but I reckon the retro/cute styling on a lot of these EVs is merely because they're otherwise so boring and lacking in any soul that it's to try and fill that hole. And that's fine for a car which is just used as white goods but what if you want more than that. The new Renault 5 is just an updated Zoe but it's far more desirable just because of the styling. But I guess if you live with it after a few weeks you realise that it's just another EV. No different from a sea of other EVs

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... ec-0-60mph

What a load of bollox..

Don't feed the troll Ian.

Doesn’t state where it will do 0-60 in 1 second. It may be being pushed off a cliff…

"Hmmm, we're 5 years late on the release of this, Elon what crap can we make up to steer the press away from your previous lies?"

Mito Man wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:05 pm Doesn’t state where it will do 0-60 in 1 second. It may be being pushed off a cliff…

Which would result in 1g. The simps liar is claiming nearly 2.8g.

Simon wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:42 pm

Mito Man wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:05 pm Doesn’t state where it will do 0-60 in 1 second. It may be being pushed off a cliff…

Which would result in 1g. The simps liar is claiming nearly 2.8g.

I just checked out his tweets. He’s on a crusade saying how amazing it’s going to be that you can’t even call it a car. Cold gas thrusters, better than a McLaren F1, the finest car in history with nothing to ever surpass it, potential talk about Tesla’s maybe flying in the future.

Whatever drug he’s taking, I want some.

Mito Man wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:14 pm

Rich B wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:34 pm

Barry wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:28 pm

I'd argue that EV gives us a chance for some daring styling tbh, why not do some retro, some futuristic, whatever. I don't want an EV 3 series, I want that concept they showed off.

But they won't. They'll just do another standard shitbox clad with some over styled retro looking hatchback body panels over a very normal construction chassis, but more LED twinkley lights to show it's modern.

Call me cynical but I reckon the retro/cute styling on a lot of these EVs is merely because they're otherwise so boring and lacking in any soul that it's to try and fill that hole. And that's fine for a car which is just used as white goods but what if you want more than that. The new Renault 5 is just an updated Zoe but it's far more desirable just because of the styling. But I guess if you live with it after a few weeks you realise that it's just another EV. No different from a sea of other EVs

EV are pretty vanilla tbh so it's a valid point you're making IMO. Thing is most buyers just want a cool looking car and wouldn't know a good chassis from a mattress.

Mito Man wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:05 pm Doesn’t state where it will do 0-60 in 1 second. It may be being pushed off a cliff…

The two seater dragster I went in at Santa Pod does 0-60 in about a second (and about 60 feet too)

Maybe if the Tesla was fitted with super sticky drag tyres and was running on a prep'd dragstrip it's feasible?

But I agree, it's likely the typical Musk BS IMO...

DaveE wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:40 pm

Mito Man wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:05 pm Doesn’t state where it will do 0-60 in 1 second. It may be being pushed off a cliff…

The two seater dragster I went in at Santa Pod does 0-60 in about a second (and about 60 feet too)

Maybe if the Tesla was fitted with super sticky drag tyres and was running on a prep'd dragstrip it's feasible?

But I agree, it's likely the typical Musk BS IMO...

Model S Plaid is 2.2 seconds to 60MPH from a standing start. 1.98 with 1ft rollout. Even with rollout under 1 second is optimistic. That's a real world 1.2 seconds. He has mentioned cold gas thrusters and that would also take care of the traction issues. There's nothing stopping Elon fitting a massive compressed air tank which will actually make it do 0-60 in 1 second which can only be used on a private track and costs some ridiculous amount which will probably never be released to the public just so he can claim the record with a massive asterix.
He has form for it. Those special Tesla Model S Nurburgring lap records which were all modified. Then the Cybertruck which didn't make its claimed range so he came up with an additional $16000 battery pack to stick in the bed which is still not on sale.

Tangentially related to alternate power sources.

NonEV people: Hydrogen is the future - you'll see, you'll all see!!!

Hydrogen cars:

Beany wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:41 pm Tangentially related to alternate power sources.

NonEV people: Hydrogen is the future - you'll see, you'll all see!!!

Hydrogen cars:

On the flip side, if you light all of these, then you might just meet Elon's 0-60 in 1 second target.

Wouldn't it be great if H was a viable solution at this level. Sadly it just isn't.

Related note, I've managed to sign up for another EV seeing as they're all panicking to meet end of year/quartely goals

Not a fully done deal yet but assuming it goes through, I'm getting an Ioniq6 next. RWD single motor variant cos the PCH was cheap as cheaps.

77wkh battery, 230hp ish, 300+ range.

Cool/interesting looking car, but fairly Marmite styling. I think it looks interesting in the flesh, and reviews suggest it drives OK for a milk float.

I think the Ionic6 looks amazing. It’s quite 911-ish from rear angles and the shape looks far more aerodynamic than an Ionic5. Good choice.

Massive mk1 Merc CLS vibes.

That is fantastic

I really like the styling on these, I just find it odd that they have relatively average range for that styling.