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Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:29 pm**

Broccers wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:27 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:16 pm Is it because they know it'll be a disaster and they want to blame someone else?
How is no deal a disaster? Predicting the future is a great skill.

You did read the Yellowhammer report, right?

Or were you too busy?

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:36 pm**

dan wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:46 pm I work in a big workshop on my own and occasionally stray onto the internet for just long enough to remind me how much I like working on my own nowadays. People are terrible.

That sounds like bliss. Can I come and work with you ? Well, not with you, obvs. Unite ! Seperately ! In our own individual workshops !

As for the other stuff I say:

1) Have a second referendum
2) Fix the polls to return "remain"
3) Move on

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:37 pm**

Sundayjumper wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:36 pm
1) Have a second referendum
2) Fix the polls to return "remain"
3) Move on

I’d go for that at this stage and I voted to leave...

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:46 pm**

Beany wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:29 pm
Broccers wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:27 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:16 pm Is it because they know it'll be a disaster and they want to blame someone else?
How is no deal a disaster? Predicting the future is a great skill.
You did read the Yellowhammer report, right?

Or were you too busy?

I read a lot of bollocks none of which comes to fruition.

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:05 pm**

Broccers wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:27 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:16 pm Is it because they know it'll be a disaster and they want to blame someone else?
How is no deal a disaster? Predicting the future is a great skill.

You know this symbol “?” means it’s a question and not a statement, right?

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:06 pm**

Broccers wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:46 pm
Beany wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:29 pm
Broccers wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:27 pm

How is no deal a disaster? Predicting the future is a great skill.
You did read the Yellowhammer report, right?

Or were you too busy?
I read a lot of bollocks none of which comes to fruition.

Predicting the future is quite a skill...

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:12 pm**

So the question is: if No Deal is not BJs preferred outcome, and he doesn’t want May’s WA, and presumably he doesn’t want to revoke Art 50, what is his preferred option, and why isn’t he fighting tooth and nail for it? And why isn’t No Deal his preferred option? I thought it was going to be amazing?

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:17 pm**

GG. wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:28 am Wow. 17.4 million people in this country don't need to work for a living, apparently. Well either that or OC exclusively hangs around with Toffs "draw from that what you will"

Err go back, read the original post again. Then show me exactly where I said 17.4 million people who voted for Brexit don’t need to work. Fact is I didn’t. I responded to a question asking if anyone educated in the last 30 years still thinks Brexit is a good idea. I answered that there are people who think that way but those that I know who fit that category in the question who I know personally don’t need to work. You generalised it, not me.

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:31 pm**

V8Granite wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:25 am
Orange Cola wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:33 am
Richard wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:27 pm Do you think there’s any real people, who were educated in the last 30 years, who still think that Brexit is a great idea?
There are yes, I’m not one of them but I work with a few of them. None of them actually need to work for an income, draw from that what you will.
Yet most of the people I know who voted are low earners, make of that what you will.

It’s like different parts of the country have different experiences, crazy.

Dave!

I don’t personally know of any lower income people who voted leave and fit the category in the original question, but I’m obviously aware there are a lot of them out there. The people who I personally know that voted leave are older than what was outlined in the original category and their incomes are mixed, some of them have admitted it was a protest vote and they’d never have voted leave if they thought there was a sniff of a chance of leave winning.

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:19 pm**

The sad thing about this whole sorry debacle is it seems to have descended into coarse, binary views. You are X, you voted Y! You voted X, then you must be Y...

I’m 45 years old. I have 2 mortgages, 2 University Degrees, one in Maths, one in Engineering. I’m middle management who will need to work into my 70’s before retiring. My Employer is an EU company. I live in the midlands And to top it all, I’m an immigrant.

But I voted to leave.

It had nothing to do with Blue Passports, nothing to do with Taking back control, nothing to do with our borders and nothing to do with £350m every day to the NHS (this Nations finest achievement)

There are a million different reasons why a million different people voted to leave. When presented with an impossible, once in a lifetime decision that will impact us, our kids, our parents some people wrangled with the decision and ended up voting with a very heavy heart.

And I’m big enough to admit it was a mistake. We shouldn’t leave - we should stay but we should fight to reform. If Brexit goes away and we return to electing Screaming Lord Such to the EU that will be worse than leaving with no deal.

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:29 pm**

dinny_g wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:19 pm The sad thing about this whole sorry debacle is it seems to have descended into coarse, binary views. You are X, you voted Y! You voted X, then you must be Y...

I’m 45 years old. I have 2 mortgages, 2 University Degrees, one in Maths, one in Engineering. I’m middle management who will need to work into my 70’s before retiring. My Employer is an EU company. I live in the midlands And to top it all, I’m an immigrant.

But I voted to leave.

It had nothing to do with Blue Passports, nothing to do with Taking back control, nothing to do with our borders and nothing to do with £350m every day to the NHS (this Nations finest achievement)

There are a million different reasons why a million different people voted to leave. When presented with an impossible, once in a lifetime decision that will impact us, our kids, our parents some people wrangled with the decision and ended up voting with a very heavy heart.

And I’m big enough to admit it was a mistake. We shouldn’t leave - we should stay but we should fight to reform. If Brexit goes away and we return to electing Screaming Lord Such to the EU that will be worse than leaving with no deal.

Ah well helpfully Lord Such has been dead for several years.

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:30 pm**

Would still do a better job than most we’ve elected

Posted: **Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:51 pm**

And I’m big enough to admit it was a mistake. We shouldn’t leave - we should stay but we should fight to reform. If Brexit goes away and we return to electing Screaming Lord Such to the EU that will be worse than leaving with no deal

Wtf is this defeatist babble.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:11 am**

I’ve been drinking...

Cool??

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:33 am**

dinny_g wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:19 pm The sad thing about this whole sorry debacle is it seems to have descended into coarse, binary views. You are X, you voted Y! You voted X, then you must be Y...

I’m 45 years old. I have 2 mortgages, 2 University Degrees, one in Maths, one in Engineering. I’m middle management who will need to work into my 70’s before retiring. My Employer is an EU company. I live in the midlands And to top it all, I’m an immigrant.

But I voted to leave.

It had nothing to do with Blue Passports, nothing to do with Taking back control, nothing to do with our borders and nothing to do with £350m every day to the NHS (this Nations finest achievement)

There are a million different reasons why a million different people voted to leave. When presented with an impossible, once in a lifetime decision that will impact us, our kids, our parents some people wrangled with the decision and ended up voting with a very heavy heart.

And I’m big enough to admit it was a mistake. We shouldn’t leave - we should stay but we should fight to reform. If Brexit goes away and we return to electing Screaming Lord Such to the EU that will be worse than leaving with no deal.

I don't there were a million different possible reasons that people voted for Brexit though, were there?

And, specifically, why did you vote for it (given the reasons that weren't, that you listed above)?

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:40 am**

Beat me to it.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:24 am**

DaveE wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:33 am I don't there were a million different possible reasons that people voted for Brexit though, were there?

As far as I can see (and apologies Dinny, given your honest and reasonable post), it come down to three categories:
1) Those with a vested financial interest
2) Those that are knowingly or unknowingly *a bit* racist/jingoistic
3) Those who don't understand basic economics and have been suckered by the rhetoric of 1) and 2)

Non-exclusive, of course - Broccers, for example, is clearly an idiot AND a racist

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:28 am**

You've missed one there Neil:

4) Change just to shake things up a bit, y'know, because fuck em yeah

Re. Broccers - I swear he must have had some sort of a psychiatric episode in the fairly recent past. He makes Mick look urbane and suave.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:32 am**

I think there’s a 5), which is the “bendy bananas/they took our lightbulbs/metric martyrs/it’s health & safety gone mad” crowd, although admittedly there’s a huge overlap with 2.

I’m going to stick with my original assessment of Brexiteers being old, stupid or racist, or any combination of the 3, mainly because it really offended GG last time.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:33 am**

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