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Re the saving government money debate, I was in the pub with a neighbour last week and his missus works for the NHS, she's been off for maternity for a year, she's accrued holiday in that time which she's using to go back for a couple of days a week until Feb when the next baby is due and she's off again. All of that is fine, but I said her colleagues must love her given they'll have had to cover her workload for 2 years plus! To which he responded that there's nobody else really doing what she's doing, and they never managed to replace her while she was off and probably won't this time either.

I thought better of pointing out to him that if you don't have to work in your job for more than two years, don't need replacing and it doesn't seem to bother anybody, it's probably not a good use of taxpayer's money. I wonder how many other roles with good salaries in the public sector are like that.

Broccers wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:20 pm Yes yes yes I know, it's not going to get a general election.

But my word, look at the numbers growing by 2000 a minute.

Lots of people not happy.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

You lost, get over it.

Beany wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:55 pm

Broccers wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:20 pm Yes yes yes I know, it's not going to get a general election.

But my word, look at the numbers growing by 2000 a minute.

Lots of people not happy.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

You lost, get over it.

No comment on 1 million people protesting, and counting.

Lol. Protesting.

It's statically insignificant. Labour only got 33% of the vote in the first place so you can say 2 out of 3 people were unhappy before they even got voted in. Not sure what a few million people voting on a petition will change.

Ok.

it would be an interest stat if it was 1m of people who voted labour, but otherwise, it’s just reiterating that there is an opposition who got less votes.

Rich B wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:58 pm it would be an interest stat if it was 1m of people who voted labour, but otherwise, it’s just reiterating that there is an opposition who got less votes.

A lot of people too stupid to understand how our democracy works, the rest are bots.

MikeHunt wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:08 pm

Rich B wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:58 pm it would be an interest stat if it was 1m of people who voted labour, but otherwise, it’s just reiterating that there is an opposition who got less votes.

A lot of people too stupid to understand how our democracy works, the rest are bots.

Guess you're right. Look at the Brexit and article 50 ones.

The difference here is the speed and ferocity in one day.

i imagine it would be pretty easy to get 10-20% of the losing side of any election to tick a box wanting another election.

It’s being quoted on Twitter by Elon and I’m pretty sure he’s fudging the algos to push it, so most the votes may not even be from England.

Mito Man wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:19 pm It’s being quoted on Twitter by Elon and I’m pretty sure he’s fudging the algos to push it, so most the votes may not even be from England.

Nor from humans. I imagine Broccers has signed.

Broccers wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:16 pm

MikeHunt wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:08 pm

Rich B wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:58 pm it would be an interest stat if it was 1m of people who voted labour, but otherwise, it’s just reiterating that there is an opposition who got less votes.

A lot of people too stupid to understand how our democracy works, the rest are bots.

Guess you're right. Look at the Brexit and article 50 ones.

The difference here is the speed and ferocity in one day.

Yep, people are organising themselves through social media on protest votes because it’s so simple to do. like the groups encouraging people with kids at private schools (who have no intention to move them) to register with state schools as a protest.

it’s so simple to do these days, but it’s pretty meaningless. After all there are 7m people who voted for the Tories who would all tick a box if you made it simple for them to do so.

Hold on, it's been signal boosted by Musk, on the website he owns, and it's only got a million and a half signatures?

Lol that's fucking pathetic.

Harry Metcalfe has promoted the ridiculous petition on Twitter - https://x.com/harrym_vids/status/186075 ... K4AJQ64qaQ

I have always had a great deal of respect for him until recently - but I think he’s crossed over from unbiased commenter now and that puts into question all of his output. Shame.

Almost as bad as the power steering saga. Or the Emira sale. Or when he was praising anything JLR because he was working for them

Jobbo wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:46 pm Harry Metcalfe has promoted the ridiculous petition on Twitter - https://x.com/harrym_vids/status/186075 ... K4AJQ64qaQ

I have always had a great deal of respect for him until recently - but I think he’s crossed over from unbiased commenter now and that puts into question all of his output. Shame.

Another name to add to the "unserious and easily duped" list.

Incredible. 1.5m people thrown a penny into a wishing well in one day.

Disappointed in Harry, he should stick to what he does well and keep his politics to himself, same goes for everyone else for that matter

“Harry’s Farage” made me chuckle

Rich B wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:58 pm it would be an interest stat if it was 1m of people who voted labour, but otherwise, it’s just reiterating that there is an opposition who got less votes.

If you go on the page and click show on map, it breaks down the percentage of signees based on their constituency. Unsurprisingly the darker areas are within conservative and reform areas, rather than the labour ones. That being said there’s nowhere with zero people signing it

So I’d say you’re correct and at the moment it’s just those who lost signing up (currently 1.8million) it’s if it got up to 4/5 million where it would become something of interest