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Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:21 pm
by mik
Mito Man wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:06 pm How the feck does that happen :o
I think if the queen cat leaves the hive it can cause this type of catastrophic collapse.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:50 pm
by GG.
Jobbo wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:24 am I’d say go for a Cayenne, personally. At least test drive one.

Not sure a FFRR parked on the street in South London gives off the old money vibes you have in mind, GG 😄

Every now and again I consider a Velar but then I remember I wouldn’t buy a JLR product.
Yes well, I’m a Northerner from a working class family so my aspirations have a ceiling ;)

If it’s any consolation it will not have any black accents and will have silver wheels.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:57 pm
by Rich B
GG. wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:50 pm
Jobbo wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:24 am I’d say go for a Cayenne, personally. At least test drive one.

Not sure a FFRR parked on the street in South London gives off the old money vibes you have in mind, GG 😄

Every now and again I consider a Velar but then I remember I wouldn’t buy a JLR product.
Yes well, I’m a Northerner from a working class family so my aspirations have a ceiling ;)

If it’s any consolation it will not have any black accents and will have silver wheels.
where will you park it?! 😃

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:36 pm
by GG.
:lol: On top of whomever displeases me

Being serious though, my street’s not actually too bad a little further down just on account of the way side streets throw up extra space so worst case scenario I’ll have to walk 30 seconds and move it when a place frees up outside the house.

Also I think about half the cars on the street will need to disappear after the ULEZ kicks in in a few months time...

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:10 pm
by Delphi
Managed to get the horrific chrome sex toy shifter replaced with a standard one. The tasteless moron who fitted it in the first place butchered the shift lever and I ended up having to drill and tap new fixing holes. It just needs re-trimming in the correct leather (it's dark grey) but I've got some leather of the correct colour from a steering wheel kit, so I'll take it to a trimmers to get it sorted for hopefully not too much money.

I've also done some research and discovered that 4 of the items on my to do list (interior lights, internal hatch release, reversing lights and instrument pod gear indicator lights) are likely all related and fixable in one go, so that shall be the next job to tackle.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:24 pm
by davejevons
GG. wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:57 pm So - as it turns out - I'll likely be in a position to clear off the residual loan on the 911 a year in advance. On that basis another auto-mo-bile may be on the cards in the near future...

I'd only be interested in upgrading the 911 for a manual 991.1 GTS and basically they're as rare as hens teeth, are commanding 70-80k and I can't bring myself to pay 991.1 GT3 prices for one. So the likely choice is something more practical for lugging bikes (and maybe, one day, a dog) and dawdling around in 20mph zones. It also has the benefit of a much higher "WAF" than, say, buying a Gallardo. :lol:

Growing up in a Land Rover/Porsche family I'm realistically only considering a Range Rover. I like the current generation Sport much much more than the previous version but they're still ten a penny compared to the much rarer full fat rangeys and have an inescapable whiff of chav about them. If you're going to do something do it properly, etc.

It also has to be petrol as I'm a committed diesel-phobe. The question (and point of this rambling post) is that for my intended budget it then comes down to a 7 year old 5.0 supercharged Autobiography or a 3ish year old 3.0 supercharged V6 Vogue SE. As I'm pretty certain you do not need faster than mid 7 seconds to 62 in a a 2.5 tonne barge I'm strongly leaning towards the latter given it has the newer tech and should be noticeably fresher and in better condition.

Does anyone have experience of the V6s to be able to offer an opinion?
No experience of the V6, but we run a Full Fat Range Rover (L322 3.6TDV8 with 6 speed box). The bills can be pretty eye watering, even using a specialist. Brakes and suspension components go much faster than other cars due to the weght. JLR build quality does seem 'variable' so I would be tempted by an older one which has already had a lot of money thrown at it, rather than one just out of warranty.

Nothing else I've been in has quite the sense of occasion that a FFRR does. At times I have wondered if I should have got a petrol one but I'm not convinced it's the engine that gives it a sense of occasion. The ride, interior and position define the experience, in my view.

Like you hypothesised, we drive ours at either <20mph or at exactly 70mph so acceleration isn't much of a big deal. I find I drive it very slowly and it's a great antedote to my elise. If buying again, I would go for a last of the line L322 with the 4.4TDV8, which has a 8 speed gearbox. All the niggles should have been sorted by then and the engine and gearbox are more reliable. I can see the appeal in a supercharged v8 though.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:31 pm
by Rich B
I drovepast a VGC P38A yesterday and noticed how they'd gone through the pikey phase and now look quite classy (obviously in the right colour/spec/condition).

It seems to me that almost as a rule, "one generation old" Range Rovers have a major image issue whereas new or very old don't.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:34 pm
by Jobbo
Rich B wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:31 pm I drovepast a VGC P38A yesterday and noticed how they'd gone through the pikey phase and now look quite classy (obviously in the right colour/spec/condition).

It seems to me that almost as a rule, "one generation old" Range Rovers have a major image issue whereas new or very old don't.
Funny, I still see plenty of L322s and don't think they look like criminals' cars, whereas I haven't seen a P38A which looked anything but dodgy. Even a pristine one looks pretty nasty, IMO. I don't think they'll ever be considered a classic.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:41 pm
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:34 pm
Rich B wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:31 pm I drovepast a VGC P38A yesterday and noticed how they'd gone through the pikey phase and now look quite classy (obviously in the right colour/spec/condition).

It seems to me that almost as a rule, "one generation old" Range Rovers have a major image issue whereas new or very old don't.
Funny, I still see plenty of L322s and don't think they look like criminals' cars, whereas I haven't seen a P38A which looked anything but dodgy. Even a pristine one looks pretty nasty, IMO. I don't think they'll ever be considered a classic.
I reckon it was the first P38 I've seen for several years - I expect most were left to rot when they were worth pennies.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:55 pm
by ZedLeg
The yellow one from Layer Cake forever tainted it's image :lol:

I wonder why the Classic was never so related to criminal behaviour despite being tied to a very famous gangland shooting.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:58 pm
by Jobbo
Even a perfect P38A looks like it doesn't fit together properly, though. The original Range Rover didn't have that problem because it was a simpler design. Look at the rear lights on this - the bottoms of the tailgate half line up with the wing sections, but the tops don't. This photo also shows the horrid gap between lower tailgate and bumper. I can't imagine there's much pride of ownership to be had in simply looking at one on your drive.

Image

And why does it have those godawful rubbing strips above the rear bumper? They look like a bodge to fill a gap.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:00 pm
by ZedLeg
It is the worst looking one.

Classic and early L322s before they got chintzy are the best looking.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:03 pm
by Rich B
ZedLeg wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:55 pm The yellow one from Layer Cake forever tainted it's image :lol:
the biggest issue that had was the random yellow window surrounds! What were they thinking?!

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:07 pm
by ZedLeg
They were all off their tits on mdma.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:36 pm
by 16vCento
Steering rack replaced on S60 today, what an absolute twat of a job.

Managed to get away with dropping rather than removing the subframe but there's not a lot of room to get into things with that big, long engine in there.

Old one was completely fucked, could move it about 10mm up and down inside rack.

Fitted some polybushes to subframe as well which has seemingly stopped an annoying knock it had, which is nice.

Steering wheel is about 1/4 of a turn out but that can be sorted tommorow, I'm cold now and ready for a beer 😂

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:52 pm
by McSwede
New wipers arrived today for the M140i but no car to put them on 😂

It's being repaired as we speak thankfully. Whilst awaiting parts they took it to BMW for 4 wheel alignment which made me happy that I'll be done right. Hopefully back for the end of next week.

I really miss it!! The GLC is very nice though and a fine daily drive but I can't wait to get mine back for its final 9 months.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:30 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
McSwede wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:52 pm New wipers arrived today for the M140i but no car to put them on 😂

It's being repaired as we speak thankfully. Whilst awaiting parts they took it to BMW for 4 wheel alignment which made me happy that I'll be done right. Hopefully back for the end of next week.

I really miss it!! The GLC is very nice though and a fine daily drive but I can't wait to get mine back for its final 9 months.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good one. IME it's the last place I'd send my cars for alignment

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:59 pm
by Jobbo
Merc MOT today. Passed with an advisory of worn front brake pads. Since I barely use the brakes I reckon they’ll last until the next service, due in 8,900 miles.

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:55 am
by V8Granite
Rich B wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:31 pm I drovepast a VGC P38A yesterday and noticed how they'd gone through the pikey phase and now look quite classy (obviously in the right colour/spec/condition).

It seems to me that almost as a rule, "one generation old" Range Rovers have a major image issue whereas new or very old don't.
They are very alloy wheel dependant.

A 4.0 litre on the 6 spoke alloys both sounds wonderful and looks classy. A 2.5 tdi on the multispoke 16s looks horrid.

Plus the P38 was incredible off road.

Dave!

Re: Your fleet running reports

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:59 pm
by McSwede
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:30 pm
McSwede wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:52 pm New wipers arrived today for the M140i but no car to put them on 😂

It's being repaired as we speak thankfully. Whilst awaiting parts they took it to BMW for 4 wheel alignment which made me happy that I'll be done right. Hopefully back for the end of next week.

I really miss it!! The GLC is very nice though and a fine daily drive but I can't wait to get mine back for its final 9 months.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good one. IME it's the last place I'd send my cars for alignment
Never had a problem when they've done it before on any of my others so 🤞🤞