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Rich does seem to be getting quite frothy about this

Rich B wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 8:46 am But you’d all understand “a” meaning for someone “taking the red pill” yeah? An awakening, seeing the big picture, etc...

He was either naive to its meaning, or it’s a deliberate dog whistle. I’ll wait while you all Google dog whistle...

I don’t understand dog whistles, blow on them hard as you like but can’t hear shit.

Doesn't "Take the Red Pill" just mean facing any difficult truth rather than living in blissful ignorance. ?

I'm not on twitter so don't know the full context but he might not be making a comment on feminism?

NotoriousREV wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 9:04 am

Rich B wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 8:46 am But you’d all understand “a” meaning for someone “taking the red pill” yeah? An awakening, seeing the big picture, etc...

He was either naive to its meaning, or it’s a deliberate dog whistle. I’ll wait while you all Google dog whistle...

Even the Daily Mail links it to the alt right

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Trump.html

I've not read the context but know he's an anti lockdown corona disbeliever so imagine it's him being a nutjob and thinking it's a deliberate plot by every government in the world to destroy their own economies to control people again

integrale_evo wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 9:23 am I've not read the context but know he's an anti lockdown corona disbeliever so imagine it's him being a nutjob and thinking it's a deliberate plot by every government in the world to destroy their own economies to control people again

The context appears to be that he’s pissed off with Democrat-controlled California not allowing him to reopen his factories and that he’s planning to move his factories to Republican-controlled states.

NotoriousREV wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 9:04 am

Rich B wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 8:46 am But you’d all understand “a” meaning for someone “taking the red pill” yeah? An awakening, seeing the big picture, etc...

He was either naive to its meaning, or it’s a deliberate dog whistle. I’ll wait while you all Google dog whistle...

Relax people, I might be 100% wrong And I’m fine with that. I’m just trying to work out everyone else’s understanding too.

Jobbo wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 9:21 am

NotoriousREV wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 9:04 am

Rich B wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 8:46 am But you’d all understand “a” meaning for someone “taking the red pill” yeah? An awakening, seeing the big picture, etc...

He was either naive to its meaning, or it’s a deliberate dog whistle. I’ll wait while you all Google dog whistle...

Even the Daily Mail links it to the alt right

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Trump.html

i didn’t see any mention of the Specific MRA against feminism thing that Z said?

mik wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 8:47 am Not until 5 minutes ago.

At first my only reference was to Teh Matrix

Same here

However, it's Musk so I still took it as some sort of loon post. He's off his box - needs to quit the drugs I think.

Did you miss the last line of that comment where I said it’s been adopted by a larger network of right wing arseholes

Never heard of it either. Shame Musk has to be so mental all the time, he's a genius in many ways and there's a lot I admire about him. I wish he'd just stick to science/technology.

ZedLeg wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 10:01 am Did you miss the last line of that comment where I said it’s been adopted by a larger network of right wing arseholes

So that is what you think is “gross”. That he’s supporting right wing arseholes.

Yes, it’s gross that he’s using his massive platform to push alt right dog whistles again.

Regardless of whether he supports them or not, putting something up that could be misconstrued in such a way is pretty foolish- letting groups like that believe he supports them empowers them and gives them a figurehead to rally around

Of all the buzzwords in the last page or so, the only one familiar to me was alt right = fascist?

English is a pretty comprehensive language and I realise it evolves but by fuck it is hard to keep up. Incel, dog whistles, woke etc

So just to get this clear in my head, Musk probably knows the fascist and anti feminist connotation of his tweet (but most of us did not?) and therefore he is even more of a dick than he appeared when accusing brave people of kiddy fiddling?

Rich B wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 10:13 am

ZedLeg wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 10:01 am Did you miss the last line of that comment where I said it’s been adopted by a larger network of right wing arseholes

So that is what you think is “gross”. That he’s supporting right wing arseholes.

The alt right aren't all feminists now, are they? FFS, I can't keep up.

Gavin wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 12:02 pm So just to get this clear in my head, Musk probably knows the fascist and anti feminist connotation of his tweet (but most of us did not?) and therefore he is even more of a dick than he appeared when accusing brave people of kiddy fiddling?

Pretty much this, yes.

ZedLeg wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 10:18 am Yes, it’s gross that he’s using his massive platform to push alt right dog whistles again.

I didn't know even dogs could be alt-right these days FFS. Or that they could blow whistles. I can't keep up anymore

Google exists lads