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Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 11:07 am
by Mito Man
I don't think EE support 3G anymore although Sundayjumper may be fortunate as JLR started fitting 4G antennas to their cars at some point in 2017.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 12:02 pm
by Sundayjumper
EE have turned off 3G and my car doesn’t have 4G - looks like it was the 2018 update (with touchscreen climate like GG’s) that got 4G. Very very late 2017 I guess. Mine was actually built in late 2016, delivered Jan 2017.
So I’ve just been out to Argos and bought the 3 prepaid SIM. That’ll do until 3 turn off 3G, I’ll decide if I really need it after that.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 12:22 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Sundayjumper wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 7:49 pm
Mito Man wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 3:18 pm
Drinks less than the 120d and 320d courtesy cars he’s had despite its size.
They were broken or he was ragging them senseless. The 120d especially should do 60+mpg without breaking a sweat. Even my old E46 320td would do 60mpg and that was without any modern tech. And it had over 200k miles on it.
Nope. Our 120d rarely got into the 50s. In fact, low 40s/high 30s was more typical, the former only on a m-way cruise. And it wasn't broken
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:32 pm
by Sundayjumper
That's absolutely appalling. My E46, and long before that my wife had an E87 118d, both were very good. Even my 740d would do mid-forties mpg on the motorway.
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Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:38 pm
by Jobbo
Mito Man wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:07 am
I don't think EE support 3G anymore although Sundayjumper may be fortunate as JLR started fitting 4G antennas to their cars at some point in 2017.
Ah, I knew Vodafone had turned off 3G but didn't realise EE had too.
Reminds me of having to get either a Vodafone or O2 credit-card sized SIM for my E39 phone since those were the only two networks that supported analogue calls. I imagine those ceased to be usable a while ago now.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:43 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Sundayjumper wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 1:32 pm
That's absolutely appalling. My E46, and long before that my wife had an E87 118d, both were very good. Even my 740d would do mid-forties mpg on the motorway.
IMG_2047.jpeg
Yeah it was shite
The F20 125i we had after it achieved an average only a couple of MPG lower. In fact, on a mway cruise it would achieve more - typically 45mpg and if you really tried on eco mode it would hit 50mpg.
I think it was pot luck with the N47 lumps as to whether you got one that returned good numbers or not. The 6cyl lumps seem to fare far better
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 2:14 pm
by NGRhodes
Tyre type/brand/model, width and pressure can make 10% MPG difference in combination according to figures from tyrereviews.com
Also Xdrive seems to take off between 3 and 5MPG on various official figures.
If you combine a difference in tyres and number of driven wheels as mentioned above, a 10MPG difference at motorway speeds under same vehicle and driving conditions is reasonable.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 12:13 am
by Swervin_Mervin
Tyre pressures were perfect because I find BMWs especially susceptible to not feeling right even if they're only 1-2PSI off. And no Xdrive back then
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 12:18 am
by Jobbo
These bloody inefficient 4-cylinder diesels. Need to right-size it.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 7:52 am
by Sundayjumper
Maybe a dumb question - how do trackers work, do they use the mobile phone network ? I’ve never had one.
Now that I’ve set up all the accounts you need, RR have sent me an email about renewing the tracker subscription. It actually still has a month to run, I didn’t realise when I bought it, that would/should have reduced the insurance if I’d known. D’oh.
The renewal price is very reasonable - £260 for 12 months or £420 for 24. But if it uses the 3G network and as discussed that’s shutting down soon, it’s going to be useless and it’s a bit naughty of RR to offer 24 months !
FWIW it doesn’t seem there’s any way of upgrading it to 4G.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:01 am
by Sundayjumper
Most. English. Thing. Ever.
In the index of the hand book:
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Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:11 am
by DeskJockey
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 7:52 am
Maybe a dumb question - how do trackers work, do they use the mobile phone network ? I’ve never had one.
Now that I’ve set up all the accounts you need, RR have sent me an email about renewing the tracker subscription. It actually still has a month to run, I didn’t realise when I bought it, that would/should have reduced the insurance if I’d known. D’oh.
The renewal price is very reasonable - £260 for 12 months or £420 for 24. But if it uses the 3G network and as discussed that’s shutting down soon, it’s going to be useless and it’s a bit naughty of RR to offer 24 months !
FWIW it doesn’t seem there’s any way of upgrading it to 4G.
It must be the mobile network, can't see there's anything else they can use at a reasonable cost. I would ask about the 3G (could in theory be 2G).
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:56 am
by Beany
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 8:01 am
Most. English. Thing. Ever.
In the index of the hand book:
<snip>
What's the tea cup alert? Drowsiness warning? (IE pull over and have a cup of tea)
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:03 am
by Sundayjumper
DeskJockey wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 8:11 am
It must be the mobile network, can't see there's anything else they can use at a reasonable cost. I would ask about the 3G (could in theory be 2G).
I’ll have to ask. If it is just a matter of transmitting the GPS coordinates every couple of minutes then the data volume is tiny and I guess it could use 2G.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:06 am
by Sundayjumper
Beany wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 8:56 am
What's the tea cup alert? Drowsiness warning? (IE pull over and have a cup of tea)
It pings up at 3pm to remind you to stop and have a scone
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:13 am
by Explosive Newt
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 9:06 am
Beany wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 8:56 am
What's the tea cup alert? Drowsiness warning? (IE pull over and have a cup of tea)
It pings up at 3pm to remind you to stop and have a scone
Presumably the saucer is removed for US models.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:15 am
by DeskJockey
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 9:03 am
DeskJockey wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 8:11 am
It must be the mobile network, can't see there's anything else they can use at a reasonable cost. I would ask about the 3G (could in theory be 2G).
I’ll have to ask. If it is just a matter of transmitting the GPS coordinates every couple of minutes then the data volume is tiny and I guess it could use 2G.
A bit of googling (not procrastinating, promise), suggests that the InControl gizmo (including the tracker) runs of a separate eSIM to the infotainment, and that it only switched to 4G from 2018 onwards.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:19 am
by Jobbo
I'm sorry to say that even Mercedes seem to use a tea cup for their tea break alert:
It may be that's how they serve their Jagermeister in Germany of course.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:37 am
by Explosive Newt
A strong Jager, a cigarette, casual intercourse with a girl named Helga and then push on the autobahn to Munich. It's the continental way.
Re: Motorway Mile Munchers
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:39 am
by IanF
Jobbo wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 9:19 am
I'm sorry to say that even Mercedes seem to use a tea cup for their tea break alert:
It may be that's how they serve their Jagermeister in Germany of course.
That looks like a coffee cup to me