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Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:35 pm
by dinny_g
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:22 pm
dinny_g wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:35 pm No I get that...

But at the moment, we have a PM who wasn't party leader at the last GE and I think that warrants a new Election
But it doesn't, as that's not how it works in this country :lol:
Again, I know that Mervin...

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:51 pm
by nuttinnew

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:53 pm
by Zonda_
It's quite impressive that she's so bad it makes Boris look OK!

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:40 pm
by duncs500
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:26 pm
Ascender wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:53 pm I can't believe I'm trying this, but could Labour be any worse? I mean, literally, how could they objectively be any worse than what the government have done over the last few years or what some of their individuals in the part and cabinet have done during that time?
Short memories and all that.

I had to laugh this morning at Gordon Brown tweeting about the ideology behind the Truss/Kwarteng economics - the very same man that presided over widespread deregulation that played its part in the 2008 crash. A man that only introduced the 50p rate as a last-miute fvck-you hurrah to the likely incoming Tory/coalition Gov't.

But in truth, we don't know. Because we haven't really had a proper Labour Gov't since the late '70s. :shock:
We might have! I suspect a Corbyn government would have been worse economically, although without as much of the scandal and sleaze. I doubt a Starmer government could do worse though, will be interesting to see if they can keep policy relatively centrist in the run up to the election.

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:08 am
by mik

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:54 am
by Ascender
Its definitely interesting seeing ex-politicians and their cohorts giving their view of what's going on these days. I've even found myself agreeing with a lot of Alastair Cambell's tweets/observations which is something I never thought I'd say.

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:57 am
by Broccers
Labour will be a lot worse trust me.

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:03 am
by Ascender
Its a bit niche, but are we seeing the end of Nicola Sturgeon up here? Surely she's now passed that point where she's becoming a liability to her parties aims?

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:33 am
by Broccers
Ascender wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:03 am Its a bit niche, but are we seeing the end of Nicola Sturgeon up here? Surely she's now passed that point where she's becoming a liability to her parties aims?
Hope so !

One thing we dont have here in the uk is faith behind people and helping them achieve their well intentioned goals. I mean give them a little bit of a chance - maybe more than a month.

Unfortunately its all about clicks and fear from the msm - there's nothing positive ever.

Guaranteed after a switch to Labour they will be ripped apart very quickly too.

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:53 am
by ZedLeg
What well intentioned goals are they broccers?

Was it giving tax breaks to their pals or sending refugees to an internment camp in Africa?

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:55 am
by ZedLeg
Ascender wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:03 am Its a bit niche, but are we seeing the end of Nicola Sturgeon up here? Surely she's now passed that point where she's becoming a liability to her parties aims?
I don't think so, looking at the discourse on twitter the people who liked her still like her and the scottish tories are crying their eyes out :lol:

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:04 pm
by Broccers
ZedLeg wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:53 am What well intentioned goals are they broccers?
Exactly the type of comment I was describing!

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:05 pm
by ZedLeg
Don't know why I expected an answer :lol:

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:40 pm
by Jobbo
Broccers wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:57 am Labour will be a lot worse trust me.
Do you think they'll kill the pound, have to be bailed out by the Bank of England and make two major policy U-turns in the first 2 weeks? I suspect we'll get to find out, but I don't see how they could be worse :lol:

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:43 pm
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:40 pm
Broccers wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:57 am Labour will be a lot worse trust me.
Do you think they'll kill the pound, have to be bailed out by the Bank of England and make two major policy U-turns in the first 2 weeks? I suspect we'll get to find out, but I don't see how they could be worse :lol:
"I mean give them a little bit of a chance - maybe more than a month." 🤣

Imagine the level of fuck ups they will manage in the second month!!!

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:44 pm
by ZedLeg
I can’t see labour talking about blood and soil pregnancy tax breaks or making cannabis a class a drug either tbh.

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:46 pm
by Jobbo
ZedLeg wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:44 pm I can’t see labour talking about blood and soil pregnancy tax breaks or making cannabis a class a drug either tbh.
Just wait until the Tories tax crypto; Broccers will have to review his (now thoroughly niche minority) support for them then.

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:58 pm
by Ascender
ZedLeg wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:55 am
Ascender wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:03 am Its a bit niche, but are we seeing the end of Nicola Sturgeon up here? Surely she's now passed that point where she's becoming a liability to her parties aims?
I don't think so, looking at the discourse on twitter the people who liked her still like her and the scottish tories are crying their eyes out :lol:
Part of the problem with Twitter is that it doesn't seem to take much to sway their alrogithm one way or the other on an issue meaning you can end up with a very single-sided view of something like this. So its interesting you've seen that. I guess its business as usual then!

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:22 pm
by DeskJockey
Rich B wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:43 pm
Jobbo wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:40 pm
Broccers wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:57 am Labour will be a lot worse trust me.
Do you think they'll kill the pound, have to be bailed out by the Bank of England and make two major policy U-turns in the first 2 weeks? I suspect we'll get to find out, but I don't see how they could be worse :lol:
"I mean give them a little bit of a chance - maybe more than a month." 🤣

Imagine the level of fuck ups they will manage in the second month!!!
They've had a lot more than a month. They've had 12 years.

Re: Bye Bye Liz...

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:47 pm
by Beany
ZedLeg wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:44 pm I can’t see labour talking about blood and soil pregnancy tax breaks or making cannabis a class a drug either tbh.
I'm sorry, what on earth is this? It sounds almost Lovecraftian, something to discourage the squishers :lol: