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ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:38 pm Trying to bring more fairness to the world is thinking about the many .

It’s why I’ve never really got the whole life’s not fair thing. If something’s not fair we should be working to improve it.

Then when the strong lady wrestler gets absolutely destroyed by the transgender lady wrestler it’s all ok. That’s the opposite of fairness. It would be like Mike Tyson deciding he wants to be a lightweight and knocking heads into the back row. The logic is exactly the same.

Dave!

Hilarious really.

Is now the right time to start talking about trans-women prisoners in women's prisons?

As I said earlier, if it’s unfair for trans people to compete as their transitioned gender isn’t it unfair for people who have a genetic differences which makes them particularly adapted to a sport?

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:45 pm As I said earlier, if it’s unfair for trans people to compete as their transitioned gender isn’t it unfair for people who have a genetic differences which makes them particularly adapted to a sport?

One's natural the other isn't. If you allowed everyone to crack on with performance enhancing drugs as well, then yeah, no problem.

V8Granite wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:41 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:38 pm Trying to bring more fairness to the world is thinking about the many .

It’s why I’ve never really got the whole life’s not fair thing. If something’s not fair we should be working to improve it.

Then when the strong lady wrestler gets absolutely destroyed by the transgender lady wrestler it’s all ok. That’s the opposite of fairness. It would be like Mike Tyson deciding he wants to be a lightweight and knocking heads into the back row. The logic is exactly the same.

Dave!

No it isn’t. There are rules that dictate boxing weight classes just like there are rules that dictate when trans women can compete as women. I couldn’t paint my nails and rock up for a women’s boxing match tomorrow.

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:46 pm

V8Granite wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:41 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:38 pm Trying to bring more fairness to the world is thinking about the many .

It’s why I’ve never really got the whole life’s not fair thing. If something’s not fair we should be working to improve it.

Then when the strong lady wrestler gets absolutely destroyed by the transgender lady wrestler it’s all ok. That’s the opposite of fairness. It would be like Mike Tyson deciding he wants to be a lightweight and knocking heads into the back row. The logic is exactly the same.

Dave!

No it isn’t. There are rules that dictate boxing weight classes just like there are rules that dictate when trans women can compete as women. I couldn’t paint my nails and rock up for a women’s boxing match tomorrow.

Yes you can, it happened in MMA I believe already.

Dave!

I think we’re all missing the real issue here: people who us a cubicle for a stand-up piss and don’t even close the door. Just use a fucking urinal! I want to browse Reddit for 5 mins.

I'm in The Priory Tynemouth right now. There's a security camera over the shitter entrance. Im sure that's not allowed.

V8Granite wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:50 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:46 pm

V8Granite wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:41 pm

Then when the strong lady wrestler gets absolutely destroyed by the transgender lady wrestler it’s all ok. That’s the opposite of fairness. It would be like Mike Tyson deciding he wants to be a lightweight and knocking heads into the back row. The logic is exactly the same.

Dave!

No it isn’t. There are rules that dictate boxing weight classes just like there are rules that dictate when trans women can compete as women. I couldn’t paint my nails and rock up for a women’s boxing match tomorrow.

Yes you can, it happened in MMA I believe already.

Dave!

No it didn’t Fallon Fox had transitioned 5 years before her first professional fight.

So all the years of testosterone, bone density, every benefit of being a man had absolutely no effect.

If I had a daughter I certainly would t ever see fairness in letting a biological man beat the crap out of her. Do you think you can reverse biology in 5 years ?

Name a physical sport where women are better than men, if biology doesn’t matter then there will be a very big list.

Dave!

Actually the doctor who worked on the trans athlete legislation for the American boxing association said that bottom surgery and 3 years of hormone treatment is enough to counter most of not all of the effects of going through puberty as male.

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:17 pm Actually the doctor who worked on the trans athlete legislation for the American boxing association said that bottom surgery and 3 years of hormone treatment is enough to counter most of not all of the effects of going through puberty as male.

So if Eddie Hall transitioned he would be on an equal footing with women ?

I won’t reply anymore as you are basically saying men and women aren’t physically different.

Dave!

where Did I once say that .

Suits me if you don’t want to reply, you’re talking nonsense anyway.

This discussion has went about as well as expected all day tbh .

Kept me distracted at work though.

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:58 pmThe only reason this has been such a big story recently is because there’s been a larger anti trans movement that’s been spreading scare stories and lies.

And there it is...

There what is?

Good to see nutters in a minority of one for once on here.

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:17 pm Actually the doctor who worked on the trans athlete legislation for the American boxing association said that bottom surgery and 3 years of hormone treatment is enough to counter most of not all of the effects of going through puberty as male.

Have you seen Caitlyn Jenner? Tell me she wouldn't destroy a female of the same age.

Broccers wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:33 pm Good to see nutters in a minority of one for once on here.

Name calling . So sad.

Zonda_ wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:42 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:17 pm Actually the doctor who worked on the trans athlete legislation for the American boxing association said that bottom surgery and 3 years of hormone treatment is enough to counter most of not all of the effects of going through puberty as male.

Have you seen Caitlyn Jenner? Tell me she wouldn't destroy a female of the same age.

I guess it depends on whether you’re talking about an average granny or a former pro athlete.