Ridiculous cost of options...

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mik wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:49 pm Wasnt it the 430 Italia that had a tri-colour front-to-back stripe as an option at something like £3400?

Probably have the details wrong.
I dread to think what Lemmy’s (*) JPS liveried Ferrari must have cost... :shock:

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Mike1215 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:17 am I did notice the test 320d Autocar had recently was nigh on a 50k car.
£1700 for Harmon Hardon audio
That is a rip off when BMW out source their infotainment to Harmon Kardon anyway :lol:
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Mito Man wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:47 am
Mike1215 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:17 am I did notice the test 320d Autocar had recently was nigh on a 50k car.
£1700 for Harmon Hardon audio
But again that’s not bad if you break it down, more powerful amplifier, more speakers which will require customised interior moulds, then consider that you can get the interior in many different colours so all of those need different moulds, then the actual speakers are more powerful so all the trim needs much testing to make sure it won’t rattle...
Bull shit. They test the high end stereo, which costs the same as the low end one, knowing they will have stiffer (therefore better) interior parts when you go for the low spec options. You also don’t need different moulding tools when you’ve design for the high spec part and just have blanks for the lower spec ones, therefore it’s a tool configuration issue. Honestly, the difference between a high and a base spec is probably less than £50 to build.
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Here’s a good one, my version of Mustang was £34k brand new with a 4cyl engine and a manual transmission. Add on the V8 plus associated changes (larger brakes, different chassis) and you’re at £38k (at the time, it’s more cost now), auto box, convertible roof, custom pack consisting of cooled seats, better stereo, different paint on the wheels, metallic paint, and the list price on mine was £45 thousand and-something-pounds-something-pence. I bet it cost Ford less than £3k including development costs and tooling investment between the base spec and the full spec version of mine.
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Orange Cola wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:09 pm
Mito Man wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:47 am
Mike1215 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:17 am I did notice the test 320d Autocar had recently was nigh on a 50k car.
£1700 for Harmon Hardon audio
But again that’s not bad if you break it down, more powerful amplifier, more speakers which will require customised interior moulds, then consider that you can get the interior in many different colours so all of those need different moulds, then the actual speakers are more powerful so all the trim needs much testing to make sure it won’t rattle...
Bull shit. They test the high end stereo, which costs the same as the low end one, knowing they will have stiffer (therefore better) interior parts when you go for the low spec options. You also don’t need different moulding tools when you’ve design for the high spec part and just have blanks for the lower spec ones, therefore it’s a tool configuration issue. Honestly, the difference between a high and a base spec is probably less than £50 to build.
True that. On the e36 they all got the indents on the inside of the door card where the extra speaker sits on the expensive stereo model, they just weren't punched through unless that option was ticked.
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IIRC Alfa would allow you to spec ‘8c Red’ for your Mito at £8500
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I wonder what the biggest uplift in base spec to fully loaded is? In percentage terms. And not properly custom stuff - eg getting your Phantom 8 dash made out of solid platinum.

Normal car
Same engine etc (no 320 Vs M3)
Options on the website
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Richard wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:50 pm I wonder what the biggest uplift in base spec to fully loaded is? In percentage terms. And not properly custom stuff - eg getting your Phantom 8 dash made out of solid platinum.

Normal car
Same engine etc (no 320 Vs M3)
Options on the website
As per my earlier reply, you need to be aiming at over 100% to beat the boxster. I'd guess a base spec BMW 116i could have a significant wedge spent on it.
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Range Rover Sport
Starting price: £64,725 for 2.0L petrol
End price: £125,429... for a 2.0L petrol :shock:

I think the Nomad can more than double it’s cost but I can’t currently find a price list to confirm that.
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Orange Cola wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:28 pm Range Rover Sport
Starting price: £64,725 for 2.0L petrol
End price: £125,429... for a 2.0L petrol :shock:

I think the Nomad can more than double it’s cost but I can’t currently find a price list to confirm that.
Wow!
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Fuck me, LandRover are the masters of this!

150bhp 2.0D - £31,030 without options
150bhp 2.0D - £75,714 with options!

There are a LOT of options!

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Sure did



You can't spec one any more but I'm pretty sure the standard spec was fairly basic and bet you could double the base model list price with options which is probably why you don't see that many fully loaded.

Mine is one of the best specd ones I've seen and there's still loads more that could have been added.
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Rich B wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:23 pm Fuck me, LandRover are the masters of this!

150bhp 2.0D - £31,030 without options
150bhp 2.0D - £75,714 with options!

There are a LOT of options!

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Incredible isn’t it. Oh look another page... and another...
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There’s £15k of accessories! Boot mats, roof boxes, cool boxes, etc... like you say, just page after page!
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Rich B wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:37 pm There’s £15k of accessories! Boot mats, roof boxes, cool boxes, etc... like you say, just page after page!
And they’re not cheap either. Would sir like a boot liner? That’s £663 please.

Pretty sure you could replace the boot carpet itself and have it fitted by the dealer for less than that!
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