Hybrid batteries

[V8Granite]

Seriously this is some dull shit. What’s the point of buying something with (faux) sporty credentials to use it like an electrical appliance?

Because most driving is dull shit, and these sorts of cars are very good at that stuff. And if they hasten the death of diesels that can only be a good thing.

But a dull drive is made worse by a dull car.

A dull journey can be improved by a fun car/engine and made to be enjoyable.

Dave!

[JLv3.0]

Prediction : unanimous agreement reached on this issue by the end of this page.

[Simon]

Seriously this is some dull shit. What’s the point of buying something with (faux) sporty credentials to use it like an electrical appliance?

Because most driving is dull shit, and these sorts of cars are very good at that stuff. And if they hasten the death of diesels that can only be a good thing.

But a dull drive is made worse by a dull car.

A dull journey can be improved by a fun car/engine and made to be enjoyable.

Dave!

Only to a point. When I'm stuck in a queue on the M25 because some utter cockwomble has been scratching their vagina rather than concentrating on the road ahead and consequently stuffed their rental into the back of a foreign lorry, who's driver doesn't speak a word of English and has stopped in lane two, I really don't think the wonderful snickety little gear change on a Honda Type R will make me happier than a decent wafty automatic with comfortable suspension. Sometimes we just need the best car for that moment, not the best car evar.

[JLv3.0]

A C200 is never either of those

[Simon]

Really? Stuck in traffic I don't think it matters if you've got a twin turbo v6 does it?

C'mon James you're fast becoming a caricature of yourself.

[JLv3.0]

I know - I'm just looking for a reaction because............I am.

I'll stop now.

[Nic]

I predict Simon will end up buying the highest spec C200 ever. Electric folding mirrors and all.

[V8Granite]

Really? Stuck in traffic I don't think it matters if you've got a twin turbo v6 does it?

C'mon James you're fast becoming a caricature of yourself.

Unless you levita3 into traffic then you have to have reached there at some point.

95% of my driving is to get from A to B only, normally with kids or wife in tow. It’s the 5% and the little chances of enjoy,entbwhich make me spend the extra in cars I get enjoyment out of.

Too many spreadsheet purchases from pretend car fans.

Dave!

[GG.]

I predict Simon will end up buying the highest spec C200 ever. Electric folding mirrors and all.

On a 36 month lease and then give it back in 6 months.

[Delphi]

It’s the way forward. I tend to use the LOLvo electric motor for urban stuff and the petrol engine for motorways etc. Simple enough rationale, the motor only has 100hp, the petrol engine over 300...

Which LOLvo have you got, Rob?

[PreacherCain]

It’s the way forward. I tend to use the LOLvo electric motor for urban stuff and the petrol engine for motorways etc. Simple enough rationale, the motor only has 100hp, the petrol engine over 300...

Which LOLvo have you got, Rob?

XC90 T8

[Orange Cola]

If I'm buying a Porsche then I'm spending that money on something that's decent to drive, no other reason. The PHEV Porsches I've had the experience of are utterly disappointing. If I left home with a full charge, did some urban driving, got to the main roads, then onto a fun road after about 15 miles I'd have depleted the battery meaning I'm left with a massively under engined car that had no poke left to enjoy the road. Repeating the same journey and disabling EV mode to conserve the battery wasn't much better because by the time I got to the fun bits the battery depleted itself after a few miles and I'm again left with something that's got less power than a wet rag.

On top of that their regenerative system is noisy and the brake pedal varies all over the shop so you can never really tell what's going on when you're having fun, driving around town or whatever.

So why the fuck would I buy a Porsche hybrid? There are better cars out there at either being a hybrid or for driving, but combining the two is just utterly crap in my experience.

[Rich B]

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/panamera/7 ... -and-specs

Wow, not very complimentary. 285kgs extra for the hybrid gubbins?!!!

[Simon]

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/panamera/7 ... -and-specs

Wow, not very complimentary. 285kgs extra for the hybrid gubbins?!!!

Should've bought a Mercedes C200...

[GG.]

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/panamera/7 ... -and-specs

Wow, not very complimentary. 285kgs extra for the hybrid gubbins?!!!

‘26 mpg’ real world mpg - what a total waste of time.

[Simon]

As ever this surely comes down to what kind of journeys you normally do? If you live within 30 miles of your office and can charge there, I expect the minimal use of the petrol engine will deliver benefits. If you were going 70-80 miles each way then just buy the diseasal. I can't imagine evo drove it sympathetically either.