It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

[MikeHunt]

I hope he played the lottery that night.

[nuttinnew]

He certainly did better than the chap in the clip after...

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[nuttinnew]

They click through ok

[Beany]

the first one you can click through to, the second one absolutely you can't because it's tagged as violent (it's a scooter rider getting knocked off and falling down a storm drain) - you'll need to quote, copy the link and paste to a new tab to see it.

[nuttinnew]

Post check fail

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[jamcg]

Local compensation company (Atha and co if you’re interested) have started advertising on the radio directly for getting compensation for cyclists “was a poorly designed cycle lane to blame” etc

Given some of the scummers that ride on the wrong side of the road doing wheelies in my area I bet there’s a few going to be throwing themselves infront of cars soon

[dinny_g]

The "blame, claim, compensation" industry is going to come back to haunt us all eventually.

[mik]

Yep. And pedestrians jumping in front of cyclists will be next.

1. Far lower risk than stepping out in front of a car.
2. Easy to use the “doesn’t matter what I did - I am higher risk so you must take care of me” approach that cyclists have pushed successfully
3. Don’t even need to steal a bike to participate.

[ZedLeg]

The risk may be lower but if I hit someone on my bike it’s gonna fuck them up.

Also I’m not insured so where the claim going? Sue me personally?

[mik]

Also I’m not insured so where the claim going? Sue me personally?

Where there’s blame there’s a claim. Pedestrians are more vulnerable - cyclists must ensure their safety.

[nuttinnew]

Interesting concept if you're not legally obliged to use a cycle lane. Probably banging fook out of the "not fit for use/purpose" drum (drummers, lmk what riddim you'd do it in).

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[mik]

100% driver fault. Cyclist enters the roundabout almost a full second before the van reaches their give way line - I assume they were looking to their right only (?)

[jamcg]

That’s another one where a little bit of self preservation would have helped.

Legally the van driver is culpable and is indeed a cunt. Regardless of wether the cyclist should have waited or not vans not looking at the road ahead and has hit a bloke in a bike

However these videos just make me wish cyclists would learn that it’s better to do something you shouldn’t have to and be safe. Yes it’s not what should happen, and many people will say this is victim blaming but it’s not intended as such. It’s just wishing cyclists would change mindset from “I’m the vulnerable road user, I have right of way” to “everyone is trying to kill me”

Is much rather see a video of “if I hadn’t waited that cunt of a bus driver would have killed me there” than “watch a bus driver not give way to me and snap my spine in 26 places”

[Jobbo]

With a mini roundabout you have to give way to vehicles approaching it, not just those on it. So not 100% the van’s fault though it didn’t look like he slowed down at all.

[Rich B]

yeah, some self preservation would have helped. if he’d looked to his right he would have definitely seen the van coming and easily been able to stop. The van was driving WAY too fast onto the roundabout though.

[ZedLeg]

Also I’m not insured so where the claim going? Sue me personally?

Where there’s blame there’s a claim. Pedestrians are more vulnerable - cyclists must ensure their safety.

People can sue me personally if they want, I have fuck all

FWIW I've never deliberately hit a pedestrian.

[jamcg]

The red car literally came out of nowhere, he didn’t stand a chance