EV Thread

[Jobbo]

The rotating on the spot I can understand. How does the crabbing work?

[mik]

The rotating on the spot I can understand. How does the crabbing work?

That’s with tyreless wheels made of rollers

[DeskJockey]

Middle child has a remote controlled car with wheels like that. Can do some quite impressive tricks, but the NVH is atrocious. Even with the insulation and suspension of a proper car I can't imagine it'll be a pleasant experience.
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[Jobbo]

The rotating on the spot I can understand. How does the crabbing work?

That’s with tyreless wheels made of rollers

Seems quite a compromise for everyday use, driving on the motorway etc

[Ascender]

So is there any new tech on the horizon which is going to give an alternative to the current design template for EVs which seems to be to cram as many heavy batteries as possible into a traditional car "shape"?

[Mito Man]

BMW 'Neue Klasse' coming in a few years which say they'll go back to the i3/i8 roots of ground up EV architecture and should have 30% more range through better efficiency. I find it weird that BMW announced this in advance of the i4 and i5 which was basically admitting that they're compromised and a half way house - "We don't think we're ready to invest in full EV architecture until legislation forces us to so how about this 4, 5, 7 series with a battery shoved in and just wait a few years for our proper EV"

[integrale_evo]

So is there any new tech on the horizon which is going to give an alternative to the current design template for EVs which seems to be to cram as many heavy batteries as possible into a traditional car "shape"?

Only the same things they’ve been promising are just around the corner for the past 5 years or so…

[nuttinnew]

Two things about that BYD;

1/. YangWang. Doesn't travel well, not helped by "The brand logo is the Chinese character for "lightning" or "electricity" in oracle bone script.".

2/. 3400kg, such progress.

[IanF]

There’s a bridge near my parents with 2.5T limit, yet plenty of vehicles go over it that probably weigh close or over the limit with the drivers blissfully unaware

[Mito Man]

YankWank will be no good for crossing the Albert Bridge either.

[nuttinnew]

[Jobbo]

What’s the range like when towing?

[mik]

That video contained way too few furious cyclists

[Rich B]

What’s the range like when towing?

that was the range!

[Jobbo]

What’s the range like when towing?

that was the range!

Indeed!

Mik, the cyclists are all under the trailer.

[nuttinnew]

That video contained way too few furious cyclists

Wrongcorrect fred.

[nuttinnew]

What’s the range like when towing?

Surprisingly good; the light coloured part of the trailer contains battery for hauling the load in the dark coloured bit (probably a 911. A lightweight 911).

[IanF]

Uber last night was the new Model 3; cabin has some nice improvements with much better materials, rear looks more modern - although I think that’s mostly the new font, front is very generic but an improvement on the fishy-face, screens were quick and responsive.. but, and it’s a big but, the driver did a 3 point turn and took two attempts at swiping the screen to get it to go into drive (forward?). What an absolute step back! Then the screaming of the nanny systems as he navigated the narrow roads of Lisbon.. madness!

[DaveE]

For someone really "into" cars and technology, I have to admit, I'm very bored of electric cars already.

They don't excite me, and it doesn't appear there's very much innovation/development going on?

The biggest challenge people seem to feel about them is range, and when it comes to tackling that, it feels like the only real response is "stick a bigger battery in it"?

That just seems a bit crap to me

Aside from axial flux motors, is there really much innovation happening in the space? (Genuine question)

Everything I seem to see is either "bigger battery" or just more window dressing, which doesn't really improve the vehicle at its heart.

Sure, super-fast charging sounds nice, and a good response to the range/recharging fears, but how frequently can people actually find a charger capable of those speeds, and how much does it cost to use, if you can?

[IanF]

For someone really "into" cars and technology, I have to admit, I'm very bored of electric cars already.

They don't excite me, and it doesn't appear there's very much innovation/development going on?

The biggest challenge people seem to feel about them is range, and when it comes to tackling that, it feels like the only real response is "stick a bigger battery in it"?

That just seems a bit crap to me

Aside from axial flux motors, is there really much innovation happening in the space? (Genuine question)

Everything I seem to see is either "bigger battery" or just more window dressing, which doesn't really improve the vehicle at its heart.

Sure, super-fast charging sounds nice, and a good response to the range/recharging fears, but how frequently can people actually find a charger capable of those speeds, and how much does it cost to use, if you can?

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... w-charging