737 Max

[Mito Man]

I used to frequently go London-Dubai on emirates. They only had A380s and 777s. 777 had more space inside but that’s just how the airline had it configured, A380 was more quiet and comfortable except for take off - The A380 all rattled like a mofo, you’d think every bit of trim was going to fall off!

[jamcg]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67909417

“Speaking at a news conference, Ms Homendy said pilots reported pressurisation warning lights on three previous flights made by the specific Alaska Airlines Max 9 involved in the incident.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67919436

“Boeing 737 Max 9: United Airlines finds loose bolts during inspections”

[Marv]

Interesting vid from Juan Brown regarding the company Boeing get to fabricate the fuselage (Spirit Aerospace), sounds like a toxic work environment has contributed to cutting corners in quality control.

[nuttinnew]

The whole set up is full of wrongness for that industry.

In a similar vein to the "unforgiving" poster are these couple of snippets from the comments;

"As a now retired mechanic, from Boeing/McDonnell Douglas, we all knew, that moving to “self inspection”, for many tasks that had required second set of eyes, was not a good idea. Even the most conscientious person, can miss seeing their own mistakes. Doing the same tasks, day in and day out…. "


"Motivating and training pride in excellence to new hires is a difficult process. Aircraft assembly requires personal pride. In my days in the aircraft industry the motto was: "We do not sell airplanes, we sell confidence". There has to be a culture of pride in the finished product that starts at the top and has to be taught to every new employee."

[V8Granite]

Self inspection on anything safety critical on that scale is ridiculous. It’s why quality control departments were invented.

Dave!

[scotta]

Another point the Jaun Brown made was around the cockpit door opening. Type regulation states that it should vent a pressurisation change not open. Boeing said it worked as designed but they didnt document that on the type regulation. This will be a problem.

[IanF]

[DeskJockey]

That's brilliant.

[IanF]

[mik]

I only heard about that (ie the original 'shroom event) recently.

[nuttinnew]

I hadn't to search it;

[mik]

I hadn't to search it;

Very well covered/explained (as usual) by MentourPilot

[jamcg]

A 777 rather than a 737, but why is it always a Boeing?

[Jobbo]

Blimey, the amount of conspiracy theory nonsense posted in response (that this is to scare us into agreeing to travel restrictions and staying in our 15 minute cities) is incredible. Are all bots conspiracy theorists or is this actual people?

[Mito Man]

Americans.

[jamcg]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68534703

Whistleblower dies of ‘self inflicted wound’

[jamcg]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68775413

Another Boeing whistleblower coming out, this time about 777 and 787

[Mito Man]

“Threatened with termination” - presumably of the suddenly dying type of termination if what we’ve seen recently is anything to go by!