I hate to point this out, but ads pay for the vast majority of the internet and almost the entirety of social media. Twitter is no exception and it cannot make itself so just because Musk is a man child who is 'failing in public view'. Recreating Twitter as an 'everything' app that generates revenue without ads just won't happen in the short timeframe that Musk has to pay the bills now that he's saddled Twitter with huge amounts of debt.Gavster wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:46 am Kanye West outed himself as a complete lunatic with even more idiotic views than we'd ever seen before - this is a good way to deal with things - give people space to express themselves so we can all make a judgement.
And I said it earlier in the thread, Musk is specifically moving away from an advertising-supported model on Twitter, so I'm not sure why you're all so obsessed with him losing ad revenueit's as if you're obsessively focused on the short term
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it's as if you're obsessively focused on the short term
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Not so much....?
Unless you weren't following the story in reputable media at the time, because if your news source is the armpit of right wing twitter, you probably didn't hear about the extremely dubious sources, the bizarre to the point of fantasy story around it, and the fact that it was remarkably similar to previous russian disinfo campaigns done previously.
Which led to only (I think) two papers publishing the story, one of which makes the Daily Mail look like a bastion of journalistic integrity and why Twitter decided not to let what they suspected was absolute bullshit and likely foreign political interference get spread on it's platform.
That's the cliffnotes as to why not just Twitter suppreseed it when linked etc, but also why literally no reputable press outlet reported it. It smelled like absolute bullshit.
If it's anything outside of that (admittedly broad) wheelhouse I'll be fairly surprised.
Unless you weren't following the story in reputable media at the time, because if your news source is the armpit of right wing twitter, you probably didn't hear about the extremely dubious sources, the bizarre to the point of fantasy story around it, and the fact that it was remarkably similar to previous russian disinfo campaigns done previously.
Which led to only (I think) two papers publishing the story, one of which makes the Daily Mail look like a bastion of journalistic integrity and why Twitter decided not to let what they suspected was absolute bullshit and likely foreign political interference get spread on it's platform.
That's the cliffnotes as to why not just Twitter suppreseed it when linked etc, but also why literally no reputable press outlet reported it. It smelled like absolute bullshit.
If it's anything outside of that (admittedly broad) wheelhouse I'll be fairly surprised.
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The time to check facts is probably....before announcing a time for a Big Reveal?
The sarastic 'genius' comment here is implied, rather than outright stated.
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Nah, in other news:
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I'll take the independent research over Musks numbers any day. Note the dates on that x-axis aren't individually or even partially marked so you can't link the massive rise in hate speech impressions to his actions.
Incidentally, expect Musk to crow about impressions again tomorrow - there have been a combined 50k replies to the two main tweets about this Hunter laptop thing, which willl equate to millions of impressions by themselves.
I expect that somewhere, a lawyer kicked a door in and is currently educating His Muskiness, Dickrided by Idiots, Owner of The Golden Tweet, on what 'legal exposure' is.
Incidentally, expect Musk to crow about impressions again tomorrow - there have been a combined 50k replies to the two main tweets about this Hunter laptop thing, which willl equate to millions of impressions by themselves.
I expect that somewhere, a lawyer kicked a door in and is currently educating His Muskiness, Dickrided by Idiots, Owner of The Golden Tweet, on what 'legal exposure' is.
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Lol, there's literally nothing new here.
Twitter felt this breached their hacked materials policy and thus deserved to conservative/play it safe and have it be limited in it's reach.
There was a internal discussion about whether the suppression was appropriate.
They seem to have decided it was - remember, they did a thread about this at the time stating their position with respect to their policies.
Politicians weighed in on it as to whether it was a violation of free speech (it's not - twitter is company and not the government) - this is the only 'new' private material, but it's nothing they weren't saying publicly.
This was well known at the time.
This is nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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There's one tweet of an image (of copy pasted text - some of them still have the spelllcheck underlines on them FFS) where an unnamed Dem is suggesting that because Twitter is a source of disinfo, they could push for them to moderate harder, stating that the first amendment isn't absolute.
The author is claiming this as some kind of scoop, but the 1st amendment (free speech) is not absolute - shout 'FIRE' in a theatre and see how far you get. I'm not even American and even I know that.
And this isn't anything politicians weren't saying publicly at the time.
There's nothing new here.
Well, you know, other than the utterly broken threading on the tweets. But sure, twitter is working just fine....
Twitter felt this breached their hacked materials policy and thus deserved to conservative/play it safe and have it be limited in it's reach.
There was a internal discussion about whether the suppression was appropriate.
They seem to have decided it was - remember, they did a thread about this at the time stating their position with respect to their policies.
Politicians weighed in on it as to whether it was a violation of free speech (it's not - twitter is company and not the government) - this is the only 'new' private material, but it's nothing they weren't saying publicly.
This was well known at the time.
This is nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Edit:
There's one tweet of an image (of copy pasted text - some of them still have the spelllcheck underlines on them FFS) where an unnamed Dem is suggesting that because Twitter is a source of disinfo, they could push for them to moderate harder, stating that the first amendment isn't absolute.
The author is claiming this as some kind of scoop, but the 1st amendment (free speech) is not absolute - shout 'FIRE' in a theatre and see how far you get. I'm not even American and even I know that.
And this isn't anything politicians weren't saying publicly at the time.
There's nothing new here.
Well, you know, other than the utterly broken threading on the tweets. But sure, twitter is working just fine....
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You seem angy lol.
It's revealed quite a lot tbf.
It's revealed quite a lot tbf.
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you might need to explain it to me, I struggle with American politics tbh, I read through the tweets but which were the significant reveals?
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You'll probably have to wait for someone to explain to you that can be bothered - or maybe dyor
There's plenty in there which show how twitter's moderation bows to the Hill.
Also he's going to draw it out for more views
2 secs of looking this kinda might help you Richie Rich
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Every article I've read so far says there's no smoking gun yet and even you've linked a story from 8 months ago. I'm just interested what exactly you think has been revealed - if you don't know, it's ok to say - I don't know either!
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Mass censorship on every subject by government and other bodies that control thought / behaviour - watch this space - covid, wars, riots....Rich B wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:09 am Every article I've read so far says there's no smoking gun yet and even you've linked a story from 8 months ago. I'm just interested what exactly you think has been revealed - if you don't know, it's ok to say - I don't know either!
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Greenwald can't even get biden and trump the right way around.
That's the sort of quality people who think there's something there.
(Greenwald has been simping for the grifters for some time now and isn't really considered a reliable source of analysis, FWIW - source https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/gle ... intercept/ )
That's the sort of quality people who think there's something there.
(Greenwald has been simping for the grifters for some time now and isn't really considered a reliable source of analysis, FWIW - source https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/gle ... intercept/ )
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I'm not interested in the details just that it's happened and we're fed a load of bollocks in the media. You may be surprised I am waiting for the covid truths more that anything else
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The best part so far is this.
It isn't, because the internet archive shows those links to be revenge porn, which is illegal. Even in the US.
By his own rules, Musk should be deleting the entire thread
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Why would I be "angy" about watching the world richest (not for long) crybaby in the world shit his pants and smear it all over himself in front a huge pile of bunring cash, in public?
It's fucking hilarious
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You have a strange take on lifeBeany wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:10 amWhy would I be "angy" about watching the world richest (not for long) crybaby in the world shit his pants and smear it all over himself in front a huge pile of bunring cash, in public?
It's fucking hilarious