FAO bikers

[Barry]

Or the type of bikes Barry has which are sensible

Oi!

I prefer well judged and suited to UK roads and conditions.

[Marv]

The folk who love the 125s must be slender little midgets

I'm 6'4" and about 100kg. Not only do I look ridiculous on one, but a mild incline means 40mph tops and a queue of annoyed cars behind me !

I'm 6' and about 85kgs and I'd still look ridiculous on a 125. Doesn't stop me wanting one for just c0cking about on

Slender little midget may well describe me perfectly

5'7" ~60KG, so yeah I'm kind of 125 friendly. There's no getting away from the fact that they're too underpowered for fast dual carriageways. But for bombing along small country roads and nipping into town, they're great for us midgets!

[Broccers]

If you want a 125 buy a DT125 two stroke and you won't lose any money.

Old Skool or do they still make them? They were a bit of a daddy for a student BITD.

Always had a hankering for an Aprilla AF-1 or Cagiva Mito myself (never fancied a big bike) but I would also probably look daft on one.

I see scooters are making a comeback at the moment too.

This looks good
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265840766085 ... R7yg6fjdYA

[Broccers]

Or the type of bikes Barry has which are sensible

Oi!

I prefer well judged and suited to UK roads and conditions.

[mik]

This looks good
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265840766085 ... R7yg6fjdYA

I’m not a biker, but £4.5k for a 24yr old 125? I assume this is some kind of classic now?

[mik]

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[Broccers]

This looks good
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265840766085 ... R7yg6fjdYA

I’m not a biker, but £4.5k for a 24yr old 125? I assume this is some kind of classic now?

All 2 strokes are only going up.

A 250 rgv with trick bits are 10k+
A reverse cylinder tzr the same
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325233477109 ... R5CDoP7dYA

500 rd or rg 20k+ for good ones

[Rich B]

My mate just bought this little run around, to go with his Triumph Triple Black


Both ideal starter bikes....

[Barry]

That's the latest version of my sensible bike, just bigger tank and upgraded suspenders. Great bikes and enough to get around on. Very friendly motor too, so SD would be fine.

[ShockDiamonds]

Do you all imagine I’m going to be greasing up my balls and lapping Thruxton?
I’ll potter about every now and again, nothing more. Just something I’ve always fancied and talked about often enough. And the Pan seems and looks modern enough whereas some other machinery like older BMW bikes don’t appear to have aged too well, all blocky lines and square details. Plus I’ve always liked Honda products but yet to own one.

I’ll be a fair weather biker, too. Summer pottering, basically. My view is that all bikes beyond a certain capacity weigh enough. It’s not as if something smaller but still with a decent motor, weighs substantially less and if I drop it, then I drop it. Lack of a reverse gear is interesting to hear though, wasn’t as yet aware of that. Need to be careful where I park it then, sorted

[16vCento]

Have you ever ridden a big bike?

I've had a go on quite a few HDs over in the states, and as someone without a licence, but who has ridden bikes, you'll be surprised by the weight of them.

[ShockDiamonds]

Biggest I’ve ridden was back when I was a teenager. 250cc of some description. I recall being far too terrified of the grunt in a straight line to worry about its weight in the bends. Not ridden anything bigger. I take the point about the heft, and I’ll be going through a CBT refresher and then onto one of their bikes for the DAS before getting the Pan. Not jumping straight onto it of course so I figure that will help.

[Barry]

Just searched for the weight of a Pan 1300 - 326kgs wet That's gonna need some core strength to move about, if needs arise. If it leans more than 10degrees at standstill you're going down for sure. That's 100kgs heavier than my BMW S1000XR.

I see plenty old frail types on them so it must be manageable, but sheesh that's a porker.

[drcarlos]

If you want a 125 buy a DT125 two stroke and you won't lose any money.

Old Skool or do they still make them? They were a bit of a daddy for a student BITD.

Always had a hankering for an Aprilla AF-1 or Cagiva Mito myself (never fancied a big bike) but I would also probably look daft on one.

I see scooters are making a comeback at the moment too.

This looks good
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265840766085 ... R7yg6fjdYA

I did briefly dive down that rabbit hole, looking at a couple of cagiva mito 125s, 2 af1's, several nsr125rr foxeyes and then saw this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165628958152 ... media=COPY
Seem to remember they were a bit better than the DT and it's only round the corner. Must resist though.

[Broccers]

Old Skool or do they still make them? They were a bit of a daddy for a student BITD.

Always had a hankering for an Aprilla AF-1 or Cagiva Mito myself (never fancied a big bike) but I would also probably look daft on one.

I see scooters are making a comeback at the moment too.

This looks good
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265840766085 ... R7yg6fjdYA

I did briefly dive down that rabbit hole, looking at a couple of cagiva mito 125s, 2 af1's, several nsr125rr foxeyes and then saw this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165628958152 ... media=COPY
Seem to remember they were a bit better than the DT and it's only round the corner. Must resist though.

Dtr125 is better, that is cheap tho!

My bike weighs less than 185 as doesn't have heavy standard pipes and cat. It's dead easy to move on the flat. Slightly up hill tho - a few seasons ago a van reversed into me at the top of winnets pass (to move for a herd of sheep).

Couldn't move it more than a few inches so nearly got squashed. He did break my mudguard tho.

Things to consider.

[tim]

All Big Bikes are not the same. Not by a looooong way. My R1250RT and the similar weight FJ1300 blood bike I used to ride couldn't have been more different to manouvre at slow speed and by hand. And a Pan is a hefty lump more. Nice that they are to ride.

If you can't handle a big lump of a bike at low speed you are going to have a problem. I've seen it so many times tutoring old boys on big bikes falling over at junctions and in car parks.

I'll wait patiently for the inevitable "How do I lift this Pan off my husband" post Shocker's wife will put up in due course.

[mik]

Also FTAO bikers

[ShockDiamonds]

Just searched for the weight of a Pan 1300 - 326kgs wet That's gonna need some core strength to move about, if needs arise. If it leans more than 10degrees at standstill you're going down for sure. That's 100kgs heavier than my BMW S1000XR.

I see plenty old frail types on them so it must be manageable, but sheesh that's a porker.

One thing I have started to think about in all honesty, reading this and the absence of a reverse gear specifically, is the really rather minor step up into our garage. Not wide enough to turn the bike around inside so will need to reverse it in, which means planting feet and heaving it in whilst straddling, as it were. Which does indeed sound like a challenge. I’m not built like Arnie admittedly but I’m not a waif either, so will see how we go.

And Tim, if you hadn’t removed me as a friend on Facebook you’d get to hear about it sooner.

[Sundayjumper]

Ride in, up the step, then roll out backwards down the step.

You’re not the star of a nineties Levi’s advert

[Rich B]

Just park it there once, then realise it's too much hassle and never get it out again. Problem solved.