Fucking idiots.
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Great going there at the weekend, will have to be vigilant, despite being partly Welsh i've actively avoided going there as they try to out commie the Scottish.
Edinburgh has a mix now - so as you approach the centre, the main, large roads in are 30mph+, but then when you get in to the centre, its 20mph. Apart from on the streets where its not. Some residential streets off the main roads are clearly 20mph with a nice big sign when you turn in to them so you remember, but I'll be honest, for a lot of the rest of it, I'm constantly checking what speed limit I'm in. So in some ways I can see the logic of a blanket 20mph zone, even if it does feel like you'd be quicker walking.Simon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:49 am It's a nonsense. What kind of moron thinks that 20 is the right limit for every urban road without proper evaluation of each? No doubt there would be some where even 30 was too slow before and 20 will be ridiculous. 20's are great in the right circumstances, but will lead to frustration if not properly applied.
This basically. Cheaper to keep the whole class back than teach the one naughty child to behave. Dumb everything down to the lowest level, rather than educate and bring them up to a perfectly usable existing level.
The 20mph limit in Edinburgh is universally ignored.Ascender wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:03 pmEdinburgh has a mix now - so as you approach the centre, the main, large roads in are 30mph+, but then when you get in to the centre, its 20mph. Apart from on the streets where its not. Some residential streets off the main roads are clearly 20mph with a nice big sign when you turn in to them so you remember, but I'll be honest, for a lot of the rest of it, I'm constantly checking what speed limit I'm in. So in some ways I can see the logic of a blanket 20mph zone, even if it does feel like you'd be quicker walking.Simon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:49 am It's a nonsense. What kind of moron thinks that 20 is the right limit for every urban road without proper evaluation of each? No doubt there would be some where even 30 was too slow before and 20 will be ridiculous. 20's are great in the right circumstances, but will lead to frustration if not properly applied.
It reminds me of Glasgow centre, where every 100 yards or so you're trying to read the road ahead and understand what's a one way street, which lane is which, which roads only buses can go down... whilst also trying to keep up with the flow of traffic. Its nuts if you're not a local.