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Outrageous! I mean, it’s not even in my top 5..
They've been replaced by the twin beliefs of self satisfaction and personal irresponsibility.Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:19 pm Plus, what happened to the idea of self preservation and personal responsibility?
Do you think the HGV driver would have come out shouting if the cyclist he hit had gone under his wheels?Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:19 pm I'd say 50:50. Both travelling into the same spot and both likely visible to each other. Still, the cyclists shouldn't have been in the left turn lane, and I'm sure they'd have little sympathy if anyone in a vehicle would have tried that manoeuvre.
Plus, what happened to the idea of self preservation and personal responsibility?
To your question - I doubt it. However, WTF has that got to do with anything? I didn't say the HGV driver wasn't at fault. But likewise, as road users, the cyclists who started from the wrong lane and proceeded despite seeing the FUCK OFF MASSIVE HGV getting ever closer to them, also must share a portion of the blame. I don't see what the lorry driver's subsequent actions have to do with anything.Jobbo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:37 pmDo you think the HGV driver would have come out shouting if the cyclist he hit had gone under his wheels?Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:19 pm I'd say 50:50. Both travelling into the same spot and both likely visible to each other. Still, the cyclists shouldn't have been in the left turn lane, and I'm sure they'd have little sympathy if anyone in a vehicle would have tried that manoeuvre.
Plus, what happened to the idea of self preservation and personal responsibility?
Those road markings are not instructions and have no legal effect.
Pretty sure they would from a contributory negligence point of viewJobbo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:37 pmDo you think the HGV driver would have come out shouting if the cyclist he hit had gone under his wheels?Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:19 pm I'd say 50:50. Both travelling into the same spot and both likely visible to each other. Still, the cyclists shouldn't have been in the left turn lane, and I'm sure they'd have little sympathy if anyone in a vehicle would have tried that manoeuvre.
Plus, what happened to the idea of self preservation and personal responsibility?
Those road markings are not instructions and have no legal effect.
Someone quoted on twitter that the footage was used against the driver and no charges were bought or they were subsequently dropped.
Jobbo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:38 pm I notice the HGV has blind spot mirrors so the driver could see the cyclists next to him if he bothered to look. They were next to the cab, not further back in the blind spot.
Fucking stupid to put yourself in that position if you're on a bike because you'll always come off worse in a collision with a truck but the driver was quite capable of being aware of the presence of numerous cyclists and drove into one. Blatantly his fault.