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Marv wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:07 pm Since I started working with people from the Nordics about a year ago, I've found it quite refreshing how there seems to be no backstabbing or BS, and I'm generally left to get on with my job.

Marv wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:01 pm Are you suggesting that because I think there's no cunts in my department, I must be the cunt?

Gavster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:13 am Over the last year in my work, I've experienced ferocious gatekeeping in certain areas of business/policy/research, where people are going out of their way to protect their own position and power. I understand that people want to maintain their positions of power, but this is that two-faced, twisted ferocity, someone pretending to be your friend and colleague whilst making unreasonable demands while trying to hijack, or cancel, your work. It's the first time that I've truly come up against things like de-platforming, aggressive discrediting or crediting, or getting whole networks turned against you. It's political machiavellian bullshit which is frankly not why I come to my desk each day, because it's turned my work from being about enjoying creating something, into second-guessing people, to ensure they don't smack things down.

It's a good life lesson, but at the same time, it's complete bullshit and at the same time, if these people feel threatened, it means I'm doing something right

DeskJockey wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:12 pm As a person from the Nordics I can confirm that the consensus vote (we all get a say, because we're nice that way) on @Marv was that he's a decently nice chap, so he is treated well.

mik wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:22 am

DeskJockey wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:12 pm As a person from the Nordics I can confirm that the consensus vote (we all get a say, because we're nice that way) on @Marv was that he's a decently nice chap, so he is treated well.

I wasn’t allowed a membership so can’t add a full link, but I understand Marv won FDNCOTY 2019 and 2020 on www.nordiccvnts.com/forums/nonnordicgoodguyorw4nk

unzippy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:41 am

Gavster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:13 am Over the last year in my work, I've experienced ferocious gatekeeping in certain areas of business/policy/research, where people are going out of their way to protect their own position and power. I understand that people want to maintain their positions of power, but this is that two-faced, twisted ferocity, someone pretending to be your friend and colleague whilst making unreasonable demands while trying to hijack, or cancel, your work. It's the first time that I've truly come up against things like de-platforming, aggressive discrediting or crediting, or getting whole networks turned against you. It's political machiavellian bullshit which is frankly not why I come to my desk each day, because it's turned my work from being about enjoying creating something, into second-guessing people, to ensure they don't smack things down.

It's a good life lesson, but at the same time, it's complete bullshit and at the same time, if these people feel threatened, it means I'm doing something right

Have you thought about talking up BBQ?

Gavster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:02 pm The fact is that this underhand, unspoken bullshit isn't worth the stress. When these malevolent forces and their intentions are hidden, it's impossible to confront, so can only be countered with equal duplicity. Whilst I can think of ways to do that, I also need to face facts that it would be raising the stakes again and they would undoubtedly fight back, which would be a nightmare. I've got a lot of great skills and I know where I can do really well, and it's not in the same political area that I'm experiencing this bs.

Over the last seven years since quitting my old business, I've done loads of crazy different work from shooting chocolate for National Geographic in Ecuador to working on food policy in Brussels with the European Commission, and looking back on all the high points, politics simply isn't me. It's time to give more time back to my creative work, as that's where I'm happiest. Yesterday I had a drink with a pal who's got 2.5m subs on YouTube yesterday and he's not faced any of this manipulative bs.

After all, what's the point in fighting everything? Surely the point of being alive is to make each day as happy as possible?