2020 LR Defender

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Mito Man » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:26 pm

JLv3.0 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:30 pm
Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:03 pm
Wonder if the front bumper has a clever design to snap off allowing access to maintain the winch. It seems very hidden.
You genuinely can't see in the screenshot above where the winch might possibly be housed?
I’m asking something completely different to what you’ve answered?
How about not having a sig at all?

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by NotoriousREV » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:32 pm

Ascender wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:23 pm
The 90 on steelies in green looks the business! I know this is the new Defender, but are the army and farmers going to buy it (or be able to afford it?) for tooling around the great outdoors? Or will it just be the latest must-have for the school run?
Annual EU grant would’ve bought one for a farmer but...
Mo’ money, mo’ tard.

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by V8Granite » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:33 pm

Jobbo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:25 pm
Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:53 pm
It’s now a monocoque chassis so it would be quite difficult to turn it into a pick up wouldn’t it?
It has 85 different ECUs so god bless the future owners who have them out of warranty :lol:
I notice the snorkel has no effect on the wading depth as well. Wonder if that's due to the mounting locations of key electrical items?
It’s not a snorkel, it’s a raised air intake.

I’ve just watched the video and the middle seat is very surprising, I didn’t think they would be able to do that and it works well by the looks of it.

Dave!

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by V8Granite » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:38 pm

Ascender wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:23 pm
The 90 on steelies in green looks the business! I know this is the new Defender, but are the army and farmers going to buy it (or be able to afford it?) for tooling around the great outdoors? Or will it just be the latest must-have for the school run?
Definitely not with air suspension and various computers.

I think the last Defender was still the 300tdi and everything newer has been stuff like the Ocelot. I’m not sure they still use the WMIk etc.

Dave!

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by JLv3.0 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:39 pm

Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:26 pm
JLv3.0 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:30 pm
Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:03 pm
Wonder if the front bumper has a clever design to snap off allowing access to maintain the winch. It seems very hidden.
You genuinely can't see in the screenshot above where the winch might possibly be housed?
I’m asking something completely different to what you’ve answered?
Oh yeah maybe so, sadly that delineates the exact point I totally lose interest in the discussi

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Ascender » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:58 pm

I'd been looking at sub-10K 90s recently to have something I can take to the hills, chuck wet muddy dogs in the back of and be decent off-road. Which seems to be things that the old one excels at...

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by NotoriousREV » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:17 pm

Ascender wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:58 pm
I'd been looking at sub-10K 90s recently to have something I can take to the hills, chuck wet muddy dogs in the back of and be decent off-road. Which seems to be things that the old one excels at...
I’d rather have a £2k XJ Cherokee.
Mo’ money, mo’ tard.

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Zonda_ » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:21 pm

Ascender wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:58 pm
I'd been looking at sub-10K 90s recently to have something I can take to the hills, chuck wet muddy dogs in the back of and be decent off-road. Which seems to be things that the old one excels at...
And this one.

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Ascender » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:22 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:17 pm
Ascender wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:58 pm
I'd been looking at sub-10K 90s recently to have something I can take to the hills, chuck wet muddy dogs in the back of and be decent off-road. Which seems to be things that the old one excels at...
I’d rather have a £2k XJ Cherokee.
Never having a Cherokee again after the troubles we had with our one.

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Rich B » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:25 pm

Ascender wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:22 pm
NotoriousREV wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:17 pm
Ascender wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:58 pm
I'd been looking at sub-10K 90s recently to have something I can take to the hills, chuck wet muddy dogs in the back of and be decent off-road. Which seems to be things that the old one excels at...
I’d rather have a £2k XJ Cherokee.
Never having a Cherokee again after the troubles we had with our one.
Troubles you say? Perfect for Rev!

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by NotoriousREV » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:37 pm

What’s a couple of broken axles between friends?
Mo’ money, mo’ tard.

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by speedingfine » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:13 pm

So it turns out it doesn't look like a Kia Soul, it looks like a Honda Element 😆

David Undercoffler (@autolist_dave) Tweeted:
Guys I really like the new Honda Element. https://t.co/kW2jJ2vjdK

(I still want one though)

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by mik » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:38 pm

I havent seen any negative press on this. Despite it being easy to spend > £65k on 4-smasher versions. Looks like LR are onto a winner (after ruining the Disco).

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Zonda_ » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:05 pm

speedingfine wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:13 pm
So it turns out it doesn't look like a Kia Soul, it looks like a Honda Element 😆

David Undercoffler (@autolist_dave) Tweeted:
Guys I really like the new Honda Element. https://t.co/kW2jJ2vjdK

(I still want one though)
Nah, he's clutching at straws there, it looks a bit like it if you've only got one eye and it's dark. Typical behaviour, people can't bear it to be be good.

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Jobbo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:13 pm

Orange Cola wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:29 pm
Jobbo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:25 pm
Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:53 pm
It’s now a monocoque chassis so it would be quite difficult to turn it into a pick up wouldn’t it?
It has 85 different ECUs so god bless the future owners who have them out of warranty :lol:
I notice the snorkel has no effect on the wading depth as well. Wonder if that's due to the mounting locations of key electrical items?
It floats if you go any deeper!

I love it, I think they’ve really hit the nail on the head with this one.
My Grand Vitara has a wading depth of two and a half feet; this has a wading depth of under three feet. And the new Defender has air suspension to raise it substantially. Could do better (and yes, I appreciate it’s not for wading Dave; so how can the wading depth be improved?)

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by V8Granite » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:56 am

The only thing stopping the pre TD5 defenders going any deeper were axle and gearbox breathers. £40 later and you have a wading depth of a metre.

Your feet will get wet mind you.

Dave!

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Orange Cola » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:49 pm

V8Granite wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:56 am
The only thing stopping the pre TD5 defenders going any deeper were axle and gearbox breathers. £40 later and you have a wading depth of a metre.

Your feet will get wet mind you.

Dave!
Helps that the car itself starts adding mass by filling the Chassis and interior with water :lol:
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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Orange Cola » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:50 pm

Jobbo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:13 pm
Orange Cola wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:29 pm
Jobbo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:25 pm


I notice the snorkel has no effect on the wading depth as well. Wonder if that's due to the mounting locations of key electrical items?
It floats if you go any deeper!

I love it, I think they’ve really hit the nail on the head with this one.
My Grand Vitara has a wading depth of two and a half feet; this has a wading depth of under three feet. And the new Defender has air suspension to raise it substantially. Could do better (and yes, I appreciate it’s not for wading Dave; so how can the wading depth be improved?)
900mm is pretty impressive for off the shelf off road cars, maybe it’s not the Defender that’s a disappointment but Suzuki have just done a decent job on the Vitara? ;)
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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by JLv3.0 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:53 pm

Anyone who thinks 900mm of water isn't a lot has never been confronted with 900mm of water to drive through. Trust me - it's plenty. Not far off waist height on me......

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by mik » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:58 pm

JLv3.0 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:53 pm
Anyone who thinks 900mm of water isn't a lot has never been confronted with 900mm of water to drive through. Trust me - it's plenty. Not far off waist height on me......
I did about 700mm in a RRS (requote away) on the Land Rover Experience. They arent going to risk the cars, so I went in knowing we would be able to make it, but it was still a dry-throat moment.

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