2020 LR Defender

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Zonda_ » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:43 pm

JonMad wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:39 pm
How does it fit size wise alongside a Disco Sport? And in terms of off-road tech/capability?
And towing capacity?
If I read the blurb correctly it can have a camera system like the F35 Lightning where you can see 'through' the floor! 8-)

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Carlos » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:46 pm

JonMad wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:39 pm
How does it fit size wise alongside a Disco Sport? And in terms of off-road tech/capability?
And towing capacity?
Disco Sport has max. towing capacity of 2200 kg the new Defender can tow 3720 kg 8-)

One is suitable for towing a caravan the other for pulling a combine harvester out of a field :lol:

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by JLv3.0 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:49 pm

Zonda_ wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:38 pm
Other half is looking to replace her Mokka X, wonder if I can persuade her...
Persuade her to have a 60k car to replace her current POS? Shouldn't be too hard!

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Zonda_ » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:27 pm

JLv3.0 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:49 pm
Zonda_ wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:38 pm
Other half is looking to replace her Mokka X, wonder if I can persuade her...
Persuade her to have a 60k car to replace her current POS? Shouldn't be too hard!
Sony be too sure, she originally wanted an Evoke!

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Mito Man » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:27 pm

Just saw Hammond’s video on it, I swear the chequer plating looks to be moulded plastic :lol:
No doubt some aftermarket company has already made actual plating for it.
How about not having a sig at all?

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by JLv3.0 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:30 pm

Zonda_ wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:27 pm
JLv3.0 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:49 pm
Zonda_ wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:38 pm
Other half is looking to replace her Mokka X, wonder if I can persuade her...
Persuade her to have a 60k car to replace her current POS? Shouldn't be too hard!
Sony be too sure, she originally wanted an Evoke!
My decryption software is out of date Gav, fancy taking another crack at that one and putting it in English? :lol:

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Zonda_ » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:33 pm

Stupid arthritic thumb! Should have read Don't!

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by JLv3.0 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:34 pm

............and Evoque ;)

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Jobbo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:47 pm

Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:27 pm
Just saw Hammond’s video on it, I swear the chequer plating looks to be moulded plastic :lol:
It is, isn't it? Just stick-on tat.

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by V8Granite » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:19 pm

Chequer plate on that is no different than the cheap tat chrome Marc’s are putting on their cars, hateful shit.

Some textured rubber like on the Cactus door would do the job.

I wonder if they will do a pick-up version because as it stands not a single utility company would buy one. There are still a few of the newer 2.2 versions used by the electricity board near me and a few with cherry pickers and cranes on etc.

It will be great but if its not seen doing the tough stuff, modified, external cages, big work boxes on the back etc will it still be as popular ?

The roof load is a big improvement which is nice and the 3.5ton tow capacity being kept is important. The load area looks a bit rubbish but although the original is big inside, the door size is quite small which is a twat at times.

I think only Toyota is left with a truly rugged 4x4 ?

Dave!

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Mito Man » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:53 pm

It’s now a monocoque chassis so it would be quite difficult to turn it into a pick up wouldn’t it?
It has 85 different ECUs so god bless the future owners who have them out of warranty :lol:
How about not having a sig at all?

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Mito Man » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:54 pm

Jobbo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:47 pm
Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:27 pm
Just saw Hammond’s video on it, I swear the chequer plating looks to be moulded plastic :lol:
It is, isn't it? Just stick-on tat.
Yes first I noticed it on the wing mirror and thought that’s odd, then there was a close up on the front bumper which made it clear that it’s plastic.
How about not having a sig at all?

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Richard » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:18 pm

That front bar looks a bit retiree spec Series 1 Freelander, doesn’t it?

It’s really gross

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Jobbo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:25 pm

Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:53 pm
It’s now a monocoque chassis so it would be quite difficult to turn it into a pick up wouldn’t it?
It has 85 different ECUs so god bless the future owners who have them out of warranty :lol:
I notice the snorkel has no effect on the wading depth as well. Wonder if that's due to the mounting locations of key electrical items?

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Mito Man » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:03 pm

How strange, it is probably to protect electronics and the interior and give them a get out clause if you take it wading a bit too deep and damage something!

Wonder if the front bumper has a clever design to snap off allowing access to maintain the winch. It seems very hidden.
How about not having a sig at all?

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Swervin_Mervin » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:28 pm

Richard wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:18 pm
That front bar looks a bit retiree spec Series 1 Freelander, doesn’t it?

It’s really gross
The whole things's pretty tat imo.

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Orange Cola » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:29 pm

Jobbo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:25 pm
Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:53 pm
It’s now a monocoque chassis so it would be quite difficult to turn it into a pick up wouldn’t it?
It has 85 different ECUs so god bless the future owners who have them out of warranty :lol:
I notice the snorkel has no effect on the wading depth as well. Wonder if that's due to the mounting locations of key electrical items?
It floats if you go any deeper!

I love it, I think they’ve really hit the nail on the head with this one.
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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by JLv3.0 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:30 pm

Mito Man wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:03 pm
Wonder if the front bumper has a clever design to snap off allowing access to maintain the winch. It seems very hidden.
You genuinely can't see in the screenshot above where the winch might possibly be housed?

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Re: 2020 LR Defender

Post by Ascender » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:23 pm

The 90 on steelies in green looks the business! I know this is the new Defender, but are the army and farmers going to buy it (or be able to afford it?) for tooling around the great outdoors? Or will it just be the latest must-have for the school run?

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