eBay 996 build thread

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by NotoriousREV » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:22 pm

Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:17 pm
NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:43 pm
Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:25 pm
I would cut and run rather than go LS, with the age of these things it’s a never ending money pit, suspension etc etc..

Check hoovies garage exploits.

Any LS cars for sale in the uk?
You could say that about anything remotely interesting, though. What's the alternative, leased Golfs for the rest of my life?
Point I was making was fix the car with the proper engine, or walk away, fuck the LS.

Good luck!
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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Foz » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:27 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:22 pm
Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:17 pm
NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:43 pm


You could say that about anything remotely interesting, though. What's the alternative, leased Golfs for the rest of my life?
Point I was making was fix the car with the proper engine, or walk away, fuck the LS.

Good luck!
Do what you like with it when it’s your car.
No you need to do what we all tell you!

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by NotoriousREV » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:30 pm

Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:27 pm
NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:22 pm
Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:17 pm


Point I was making was fix the car with the proper engine, or walk away, fuck the LS.

Good luck!
Do what you like with it when it’s your car.
No you need to do what we all tell you!
I’ll send you the broken 3.4 to stick in your Lotus.
Mo’ money, mo’ tard.

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Foz » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:41 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:30 pm
Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:27 pm
NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:22 pm


Do what you like with it when it’s your car.
No you need to do what we all tell you!
I’ll send you the broken 3.4 to stick in your Lotus.
Perfect! Boosted forged K20 with cash your way :mrgreen:

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Rich B » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:43 pm

I know where Foz is coming from, you’ll spend £25k for a garage to build you a slightly scruffy V8 911 that’s done 130k miles and may always have issues to contend with, when for that money you could just buy a fairly recent Mustang/Camaro that you can bolt go faster bits to at home or a 997.

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by NotoriousREV » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:01 pm

Rich B wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:43 pm
I know where Foz is coming from, you’ll spend £25k for a garage to build you a slightly scruffy V8 911 that’s done 130k miles and may always have issues to contend with, when for that money you could just buy a fairly recent Mustang/Camaro that you can bolt go faster bits to at home or a 997.
All of which will be slower and/or handle worse. A 997 could be just as unreliable as my 130k 996.
Mo’ money, mo’ tard.

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Foz » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:05 pm

Mines had 25k spent on it in the last 4 years. And still costs me money. As yours was a cheap car, keep it that way, otherwise the bargain will cease to be that.

The car makes absolute sense if you keep it sub 10k, as I all well know they can swallow money like you wouldn’t believe :lol:

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by NotoriousREV » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:16 pm

Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:05 pm
Mines had 25k spent on it in the last 4 years. And still costs me money. As yours was a cheap car, keep it that way, otherwise the bargain will cease to be that.

The car makes absolute sense if you keep it sub 10k, as I all well know they can swallow money like you wouldn’t believe :lol:
Let’s just see what’s up with it first :lol:
Mo’ money, mo’ tard.

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Foz » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:19 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:16 pm
Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:05 pm
Mines had 25k spent on it in the last 4 years. And still costs me money. As yours was a cheap car, keep it that way, otherwise the bargain will cease to be that.

The car makes absolute sense if you keep it sub 10k, as I all well know they can swallow money like you wouldn’t believe :lol:
Let’s just see what’s up with it first :lol:
Exactly, get a diagnosis and put up a poll, or roll the dice !

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Mito Man » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:48 pm

Yep if you’re gonna be £25k deep to stick a V8 in a 911 you should just go buy something with a V8 already in it.
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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Mito Man » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:50 pm

Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:05 pm
Mines had 25k spent on it in the last 4 years. And still costs me money. As yours was a cheap car, keep it that way, otherwise the bargain will cease to be that.

The car makes absolute sense if you keep it sub 10k, as I all well know they can swallow money like you wouldn’t believe :lol:
Also 25k? What the actual fuck :shock:
How about not having a sig at all?

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by NotoriousREV » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:10 pm

Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:05 pm
Mines had 25k spent on it in the last 4 years. And still costs me money. As yours was a cheap car, keep it that way, otherwise the bargain will cease to be that.

The car makes absolute sense if you keep it sub 10k, as I all well know they can swallow money like you wouldn’t believe :lol:
Have you got a rough breakdown of that £25k?
Mo’ money, mo’ tard.

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by mik » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:42 pm

NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:10 pm
Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:05 pm
Mines had 25k spent on it in the last 4 years. And still costs me money. As yours was a cheap car, keep it that way, otherwise the bargain will cease to be that.

The car makes absolute sense if you keep it sub 10k, as I all well know they can swallow money like you wouldn’t believe :lol:
Have you got a rough breakdown of that £25k?
Stuff - £5k
Repairy woof - £10k
Partz - £12k
Wifey lies correction £-2k

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Foz » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:44 pm

Oh yes..

Don’t have the invoices in front me but the reason for buying was:

Engine 12k
Rads & condensers
Clutch
Exhaust back boxes
I went through the invoices and previous owner had spent just under 20 grand in the 5 years he owned it.

I mean it’s pretty much sorted yeah :lol:

Since I got it:
Suspension refresh 2k- coffin arms Bilstein B8’s and various other drop links, arms and shit.
Wheel refurb and Michelin tyres 1k
Coils, plugs, MAF and a full service 1.3k
All Breaks inc caliper refurb 1.5k

It’s only done 66k

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Foz » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:47 pm

mik wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:42 pm
NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:10 pm
Foz wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:05 pm
Mines had 25k spent on it in the last 4 years. And still costs me money. As yours was a cheap car, keep it that way, otherwise the bargain will cease to be that.

The car makes absolute sense if you keep it sub 10k, as I all well know they can swallow money like you wouldn’t believe :lol:
Have you got a rough breakdown of that £25k?
Stuff - £5k
Repairy woof - £10k
Partz - £12k
Wifey lies correction £-2k
:lol:

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by Orange Cola » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:00 am

NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:01 pm
Rich B wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:43 pm
I know where Foz is coming from, you’ll spend £25k for a garage to build you a slightly scruffy V8 911 that’s done 130k miles and may always have issues to contend with, when for that money you could just buy a fairly recent Mustang/Camaro that you can bolt go faster bits to at home or a 997.
All of which will be slower and/or handle worse. A 997 could be just as unreliable as my 130k 996.
Bit of a gap though, bottom end V8 Mustangs are £28k and more like £32k+ for something which doesn’t have a questionable past, supercharger kits from somewhere reputable are £15k. That’s a big gap from the £8008 spent on the 911 so far.
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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by mikeyb » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:15 am

NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:55 pm
It’s probably £15k minimum. I’d want to do it properly so crate engine rather than scrapyard, proper ECU etc.

What I want is a de-stroked LS3, which is the 6.2 block with the crank from the 4.8 Vortec for 5.6 litres and (with appropriate parts) 600+bhp and 9000rpm. Not cheap, but not as expensive as it sounds.
Interesting spec. It's difficult making an LS rev that high, reliably. The rockers, springs and lifters will be given some grief! Presumably it'll be solid lifters, hollow valves, dual springs etc? With the right cam in a standard LS3 you can move the power curve further up, so the delivery is less like the traditional lazy V8.

600+BHP is LS7 with cam territory - however it's probably no cheaper than what you have planned. Or you could try an LSX376 with a couple turbos.... Or an LSX454 :twisted:

For a smaller budget, I'd be going for a crate LS3 (£6.4k) and cam/drivetrain (£1-2k) for 530bhp/460 lbf-ft

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by NotoriousREV » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:41 am

mikeyb wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:15 am
NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:55 pm
It’s probably £15k minimum. I’d want to do it properly so crate engine rather than scrapyard, proper ECU etc.

What I want is a de-stroked LS3, which is the 6.2 block with the crank from the 4.8 Vortec for 5.6 litres and (with appropriate parts) 600+bhp and 9000rpm. Not cheap, but not as expensive as it sounds.
Interesting spec. It's difficult making an LS rev that high, reliably. The rockers, springs and lifters will be given some grief! Presumably it'll be solid lifters, hollow valves, dual springs etc? With the right cam in a standard LS3 you can move the power curve further up, so the delivery is less like the traditional lazy V8.

600+BHP is LS7 with cam territory - however it's probably no cheaper than what you have planned. Or you could try an LSX376 with a couple turbos.... Or an LSX454 :twisted:

For a smaller budget, I'd be going for a crate LS3 (£6.4k) and cam/drivetrain (£1-2k) for 530bhp/460 lbf-ft
I’d be solid roller cam, CNC heads with appropriate valves etc for that power. I’d probably limit it to nearer 8k but build for 9.
Mo’ money, mo’ tard.

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Re: eBay 996 build thread

Post by mikeyb » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:57 am

NotoriousREV wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:41 am
mikeyb wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:15 am
NotoriousREV wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:55 pm
It’s probably £15k minimum. I’d want to do it properly so crate engine rather than scrapyard, proper ECU etc.

What I want is a de-stroked LS3, which is the 6.2 block with the crank from the 4.8 Vortec for 5.6 litres and (with appropriate parts) 600+bhp and 9000rpm. Not cheap, but not as expensive as it sounds.
Interesting spec. It's difficult making an LS rev that high, reliably. The rockers, springs and lifters will be given some grief! Presumably it'll be solid lifters, hollow valves, dual springs etc? With the right cam in a standard LS3 you can move the power curve further up, so the delivery is less like the traditional lazy V8.

600+BHP is LS7 with cam territory - however it's probably no cheaper than what you have planned. Or you could try an LSX376 with a couple turbos.... Or an LSX454 :twisted:

For a smaller budget, I'd be going for a crate LS3 (£6.4k) and cam/drivetrain (£1-2k) for 530bhp/460 lbf-ft
I’d be solid roller cam, CNC heads with appropriate valves etc for that power. I’d probably limit it to nearer 8k but build for 9.
Should be a nice build. If you're stuck for someome to map it, I know of a guy in Oz who is really good - he will map it remotely using a rolling road near Chester.

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