Alex - how are you getting on with yours? An E63 650 is still on my list (I'll probably not bother now with the later 6GC) but hte valve stem oils seals issue gives me the sweats.
£5k - what car
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Hush now, you tart. Stop treading on my dreams of relative respectability.
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Haven't watched Hoovie's stuff in a long time. Got a bit tired of the - buy a broken, complex, older flagship, take it to mechanic, discover that is indeed broken, declare it sh1t - theme. What do people really expect when you're buying literally the worst example on the market..Jobbo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:26 amHmmm - watch Hoovie's Garage. I don't think I'd have an older V8 BMW of that era now.
I'm assuming the 6 video is the same
Also, as we know is the case here and with other older cars, a lot of the common issues have been fixed, and if they haven't, it's probably become a lot cheaper to fix them.
My 6 is still running lovely. But mine isn't a banger
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Honestly mate, no trouble at all over the last few years.Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:58 amAlex - how are you getting on with yours? An E63 650 is still on my list (I'll probably not bother now with the later 6GC) but hte valve stem oils seals issue gives me the sweats.
Mine did have the valve stem seals done 3 or 4 years ago, but it's given me no grief whatsoever since then. In fact, in the 6 or so years I've had it, that's the only significant problem I think I've had.
I've noticed that the valve seals can be fixed a lot easier now - as can most of the issues.
It's light on consumables - 20k out the rear tires, still on the same front tires and brakes I bought it with 26k ago. Suspension is all good, as is the dynamic drive, Goes through MOT's without issue, is good on fuel (for a V8), and pre-March 2006 cars get the 'cheap' tax. Everything works fine.
I have had the gearbox serviced by an auto specialist (£350 odd) and just keep on top of the servicing.
I hope I haven't got a monumental sh1tstorm coming and I do love the 6GC, but there's a fair few scare-stories for the N63 as well!
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That's all good to hear. Sounds like it's as reliable as my E91 has been then.
I'd still love a 6GC, even if only for a short period of time, but I'll likely only be commuting a couple of days a week in future. What with that and the fact the Superb covers the family/space duties so efficiently, spunking £30k on a 6GC seems like madness, especially once you add on warranty costs to keep any N63 fears at bay!
Plus I've been watching far too many M539 vids, so sticking with older BMs has become all the more appealing
Anyway, Scott can have his thread back now
I'd still love a 6GC, even if only for a short period of time, but I'll likely only be commuting a couple of days a week in future. What with that and the fact the Superb covers the family/space duties so efficiently, spunking £30k on a 6GC seems like madness, especially once you add on warranty costs to keep any N63 fears at bay!
Plus I've been watching far too many M539 vids, so sticking with older BMs has become all the more appealing
Anyway, Scott can have his thread back now
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Maybe I'm thinking of something else. I thought that 6 series was bad for it, might be all the rough looking ones I see going around on shit wheels and drug dealer tints . The V8 does sound good through an obnoxious exhaust though, proper muscle car rumble.Alex88 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:41 pmHaven't watched Hoovie's stuff in a long time. Got a bit tired of the - buy a broken, complex, older flagship, take it to mechanic, discover that is indeed broken, declare it sh1t - theme. What do people really expect when you're buying literally the worst example on the market..
I'm assuming the 6 video is the same
Also, as we know is the case here and with other older cars, a lot of the common issues have been fixed, and if they haven't, it's probably become a lot cheaper to fix them.
My 6 is still running lovely. But mine isn't a banger
ETA, just realised I replied to the wrong post from Alex. I'm sure you can figure it out though
An absolute unit
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Mike, if you can't be bothered to watch it then I can't be bothered to precis it; here it is:
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Yeah, totally get that!Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:54 pm That's all good to hear. Sounds like it's as reliable as my E91 has been then.
I'd still love a 6GC, even if only for a short period of time, but I'll likely only be commuting a couple of days a week in future. What with that and the fact the Superb covers the family/space duties so efficiently, spunking £30k on a 6GC seems like madness, especially once you add on warranty costs to keep any N63 fears at bay!
Plus I've been watching far too many M539 vids, so sticking with older BMs has become all the more appealing
Anyway, Scott can have his thread back now
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Yeah, agree that the bangers don't help the image! I think the Bangle era cars are quite rot resistant in general. Thinking about it, I've never heard of/seen rusty E60/90/70's, etc..ZedLeg wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:06 pm
Maybe I'm thinking of something else. I thought that 6 series was bad for it, might be all the rough looking ones I see going around on shit wheels and drug dealer tints . The V8 does sound good through an obnoxious exhaust though, proper muscle car rumble.
ETA, just realised I replied to the wrong post from Alex. I'm sure you can figure it out though
Still on the standard exhaust on mine.. sound is good but not loud enough, but will do the muscle car wobble when revved though
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My independent says the E series 6 are better put together than the F series ones that followed. They seem to have all the usual mechanical problems but more complex and with added electrical issues on top.
How about not having a sig at all?
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Weren't S4 convertables described in EVO as "V8 engined jelly on a plate"?nuttinnew wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:51 am
Not at that price!
If we're getting off the beaten track with suggestions of Phaetons etc...https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174809108337
or maybe https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search ... 6113736833
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I looked at S4s but was put off by timing chain guide failures or something in that area meaning an engine out job.McSwede wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:19 pmWeren't S4 convertables described in EVO as "V8 engined jelly on a plate"?nuttinnew wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:51 am
Not at that price!
If we're getting off the beaten track with suggestions of Phaetons etc...https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174809108337
or maybe https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search ... 6113736833
Left over crest; tightens.
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Ok. Well, I've now been bothered to watch it, so you could precis it if you wanted, but then there'd be no point would there?
I didn't see anything that put me off. He bought a tired example, and most of what was wrong with it was entirely typical of any car of that age. The big issue was the valve stem seals - a known issue which is fine AFAIC as it's fixable and isn't an engine out job. Most cars of this nature will have a specific weakness that they're renowned for. Beyond that the E63 seems fairly robust.
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The valve stem seals is a major job, and it affects every single N62 engine. What's more amazing is that he's bought one in such good nick; there are plenty of design issues with the N62 which rear their head at 10+yrs old. The electrical system becomes unhappy with age. The cooling system has issues (the pipe in the vee being a fairly major one). They just need a lot of attention - if you use them, at least, since Alex's seems to have been pretty good but I think he uses it very sparingly.
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I don’t know much about bmw V8s but Ste’s x5 4.8is sounded immense with a fruity exhaust.
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I've watched some of it now. I think the car's good-ish exterior nick is obviously deceiving of its true condition
- body wise it'll wear the years and miles extremely well, but the borked light, wrecked seat, cracked alloy, knackered bushes, windows not working, usual engine issues.. It's very neglected, evidenced by the fact he picked it up for $1,900. To be honest, at that price, I'm surprised it wasn't worse.
In fairness, I could buy the cheapest version of a known reliable car and go over how borked it is. My old Civic has a host of known problems - clutch/flywheel problem, parasitic battery drain, wipers that have a mind of their own, AC randomly not working, and more. And these issues aren't even age related.
IIRC, The coolant pipe issue is slightly less common on the 50i and can be sorted for around £500 with a new fix (if previous owner hasn't fixed it already), the valve stem seals are no longer an engine out job, and definitely under a grand. Again, assuming they've not been fixed already. The common issues aren't as financially ruinous as they once were.
I see quite a few for sale on the owners groups where they've had all the work done, gearbox serviced, etc. I've also seen them do mega miles - Jayemm drove one and was very taken with it (vid below). That had 220k or so on it. A PH user - gf15, pops up whenever 650's are mentioned, always says how much he loved his old one, took it to 200k, how little is cost over the years -
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/to ... 2599&i=20
Not had any electrical gremlins on mine.
I'm not saying the 50i is a problem-free choice by any means there are problems, however I think it's the usual case of eyes wide open, buy the best you can, keep a bit of dosh aside just in case. And get an aftermarket exhaust, enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBkYL4t2L0&t=404s
Edit - I did have a restraint system sensor replaced 4 years or so ago, and just remembered that there is a roof sensor that wants replacing. Rubber window seal was fixed too. I think that's my lot
- body wise it'll wear the years and miles extremely well, but the borked light, wrecked seat, cracked alloy, knackered bushes, windows not working, usual engine issues.. It's very neglected, evidenced by the fact he picked it up for $1,900. To be honest, at that price, I'm surprised it wasn't worse.
In fairness, I could buy the cheapest version of a known reliable car and go over how borked it is. My old Civic has a host of known problems - clutch/flywheel problem, parasitic battery drain, wipers that have a mind of their own, AC randomly not working, and more. And these issues aren't even age related.
IIRC, The coolant pipe issue is slightly less common on the 50i and can be sorted for around £500 with a new fix (if previous owner hasn't fixed it already), the valve stem seals are no longer an engine out job, and definitely under a grand. Again, assuming they've not been fixed already. The common issues aren't as financially ruinous as they once were.
I see quite a few for sale on the owners groups where they've had all the work done, gearbox serviced, etc. I've also seen them do mega miles - Jayemm drove one and was very taken with it (vid below). That had 220k or so on it. A PH user - gf15, pops up whenever 650's are mentioned, always says how much he loved his old one, took it to 200k, how little is cost over the years -
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/to ... 2599&i=20
Not had any electrical gremlins on mine.
I'm not saying the 50i is a problem-free choice by any means there are problems, however I think it's the usual case of eyes wide open, buy the best you can, keep a bit of dosh aside just in case. And get an aftermarket exhaust, enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBkYL4t2L0&t=404s
Edit - I did have a restraint system sensor replaced 4 years or so ago, and just remembered that there is a roof sensor that wants replacing. Rubber window seal was fixed too. I think that's my lot
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MK4 Golfs are awful and that's some expensive awful in an extra awful colour. The only thing it'd look good in is flames
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