Broccers 987 3.4 S thread - update
Broccers 987 3.4 S thread - update
Does this happen with age or miles? Would one with 45k be ok
Not so baggy boxster s sports edition nov 2007 car to be more precise
Not so baggy boxster s sports edition nov 2007 car to be more precise
Last edited by Broccers on Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Bore scoring is more common on the 3.4s than 3.2s but there is generally a correlation with mileage so in theory a low miler is lower risk though obviously wear is more pronounced at cold temps so an older car with more heat/cooling cycles will also increase the risk over time. Tips also more affected than manuals, at least on a 911 (though the theory behind it would apply equally to a 987).
Indicators you have a problem on a 911 is one set of exhaust pipes (left IIRC) sootier than the other, though not easy to apply that to a Boxster/Cayman as the exhaust systems merge. Advanced cases will have piston slap or pronounced ticking that increases with revs but that's only when its very progressed.
Indicators you have a problem on a 911 is one set of exhaust pipes (left IIRC) sootier than the other, though not easy to apply that to a Boxster/Cayman as the exhaust systems merge. Advanced cases will have piston slap or pronounced ticking that increases with revs but that's only when its very progressed.
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Get a bore scope done. If it’s showing no signs, you’re probably going to be fine.
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Yes true but its a private sale and probs too much messing.
Its this car - needs a belt change - how much are they?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxs ... SwkEFdwcsq
Or should I look elsewhere....
Its this car - needs a belt change - how much are they?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxs ... SwkEFdwcsq
Or should I look elsewhere....
Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Looks a lovely spec and nice condition. Assuming you mean it needs a major service, that is only c. £350 on a Boxster even at an indy in the South East - wouldn't put me off but you can obviously use it to haggle on the price.
Cracking car at the price.
ETA: looks like the belt is not included within a major service. Should be a doddle though - IIRC, there is an access panel for the belts behind the seats. An hours labour and £70 for the belt, so couple of hundred quid tops I would have thought.
Cracking car at the price.
ETA: looks like the belt is not included within a major service. Should be a doddle though - IIRC, there is an access panel for the belts behind the seats. An hours labour and £70 for the belt, so couple of hundred quid tops I would have thought.
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
The belt is a piece of piss. Take the tension of the tensioner with a socket & breaker bar, take old belt off, slip new belt on, release tensioner.
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Yep - less of a pain than on a 911 where you'd have to take the airbox out.
Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
It'd be too much of a risk for me. I mean, I'd want a car like that inspected anyway, and any serious seller who's not hiding anything should be happy to oblige as long as your serious. Back when I was looking, before I got scared and ended up with the SLK55* instead, it was about £4k to sort, so not exactly pocket change.
(*that didn't exactly work out, as I ended up paying £2500 to rebuild the gearbox instead)
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Even that’s only 2 bolts and 2 jubilee clips. Took me 10 mins on mine, and that included changing 2 of the idler pullies.
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Ok I've bought it on the provision of bore scope test - I did speak to a local specialist who said its a 6k bill worth of not being bothered so I quickly was
Deposit down.
Deposit down.
Last edited by Broccers on Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
The miles are quite low tho so will help sell it.
I've not paid 12500 btw
I've not paid 12500 btw
Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Is that a common issue? Do you know if it’s the same box as CLK 63 (C209)?Matty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:22 pm It'd be too much of a risk for me. I mean, I'd want a car like that inspected anyway, and any serious seller who's not hiding anything should be happy to oblige as long as your serious. Back when I was looking, before I got scared and ended up with the SLK55* instead, it was about £4k to sort, so not exactly pocket change.
(*that didn't exactly work out, as I ended up paying £2500 to rebuild the gearbox instead)
Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
I think so, yes. Mine was the 7g box, I believe the CLK63 was of the same era, as later cars across the Merc range got the improved "7g+" box, which includes the essential rev-matching.
Not very common I don't think. AFACT the typical failure with these boxes is the mechatronic units, mainly due to not sticking to the 40k service intervals. Fixing that is about £500-600 at a specialist. Mine was apparently more terminal, as they found other issues when they took it apart (it was on 80k). Ultimately, it could have all been bullshit, but they came recommended by my Merc specialist so I took them at their word.
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Correct colour and nice wheels too, you have my approval.Broccers wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:04 pm Its this car - needs a belt change - how much are they?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxs ... SwkEFdwcsq
As said by others, a belt change - if that is literally all it is - is trivial. Even routine servicing at an Indy is fairly painless IME. If you can twiddle the spanners and do a few bits yourself then they're easy cars to live with (IME with a 996).
Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Top darts. Well done!
At this rate we'll have more Porsches than BMWs on the forum. By my count that's 3 Boxsters (subject to borescope coming back clean...) and a 911 purchased this year!
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
At least 2 911s (mine and Kin’s GT3. Or was that before this year? My time blindness might be causing me an issue on that one).
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
Ah yes - good point - seemed like he's had the GT3 for ages already but think you're right. Technically didn't increase the number of Porsches on the forum though given he swapped out his 996 C2.
Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
4th Aug 2018
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Re: Borescore on a 987.1 3.4 info
It wouldn’t actually surprise me if it turned out to be 3 years ago.
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