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Windows 3.11

Post by integrale_evo » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:13 pm

I've currently got our old, circa 1994 486 dx2 66 pc on eBay. Lots of views and watchers but no one has stuck a bid on yet.

Anyway, it's running windows 98, just wondered if anyone had an old copy of 3.11 on floppy disc which is what it would originally have came on floating around as I'm toying with the idea of keeping it to play with :oops:
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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by DeskJockey » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:19 pm

Oooh. The DX2-66! That was the PC we all wanted to play Doom on in high school. The insane performance of that CPU...
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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by RobYob » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:38 pm

Duke Nukem 3D and the fifteen disc archive of inevitable disapointment..... read/write fail please insert another disc..... Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by scotta » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:02 pm

integrale_evo wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:13 pm
I've currently got our old, circa 1994 486 dx2 66 pc on eBay. Lots of views and watchers but no one has stuck a bid on yet.

Anyway, it's running windows 98, just wondered if anyone had an old copy of 3.11 on floppy disc which is what it would originally have came on floating around as I'm toying with the idea of keeping it to play with :oops:
I threw a full set out when we moved last year. That doesn’t really help I know!

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by integrale_evo » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:28 pm

DeskJockey wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:19 pm
Oooh. The DX2-66! That was the PC we all wanted to play Doom on in high school. The insane performance of that CPU...
First pc game I ever bought was doom 2. I couldn't ever get it to run quite right unless running massive borders and a tiny screen. Didn't help that it only had 4mb of ram at the time, back then a 486 with 8mb was recommended spec for most things, but ram was expensive!

A few years later ram prices must have crashed as I put 16mb in it.

Pc specs used to move so quickly back then. Less than four years later I was building my own pc to take to uni, a slot 1 celeron 266 overclocked to 448mhz with a 16mb 3dfx voodoo banshee ( still got those bits somewhere too :lol: )

I've probably got the old Microsoft works and encarta cds somewhere but no early operating system. Might give it a fresh win 95 install which is a bit more period correct for it.
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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by Beany » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:49 pm

You wouldn't believe it, but when we went through the old man's stuff after he went a-bucket-kicking, there was an unsealed, but blatantly used once then put away set of floppies for Win 3.11 For Workgroups.

Fucking chucked it, didn't I?

Anyway, should be able to find disk images archived on the net somewhere, I'd imagine?

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Post by Ascender » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:35 pm

DeskJockey wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:19 pm
Oooh. The DX2-66! That was the PC we all wanted to play Doom on in high school. The insane performance of that CPU...
I remember upgrading my tower PC to one of those specifically for Doom aka the start of the end of my university career.

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Post by Beany » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:21 pm

Oddly I had, what I remember being, no problem running Doom on a 486 DX25 with 4MB of RAM, but the rose tinted glasses might be filtering things a bit.

It didn't like Duke Nukem though, even when I assigned 16mb of the hard drive to behave as virtual memory - oh the swappage and the 1FPS as it pulled animation frames into RAM.

We don't talk about what happened when mother dearest powered the machine off when I was decompressing the HDD to install OS/2, however. Ok, we do - HDD gibbered, and being about 11 and there being no internet, I had no realistic way to fix it. In the bin it went :(

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by RobYob » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:06 pm

Beany wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:21 pm
- HDD gibbered, and being about 11 and there being no internet, I had no realistic way to fix it. In the bin it went :(
:o You didn't bother to go to the library and get in the "PC for dummies" waiting list?

Or buy some issues of PC+ in the hope of a useful article. :lol:

For reasons I still don't understand my brother bought OS+ for his PC.

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Post by drcarlos » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:17 pm

Beany wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:21 pm
Oddly I had, what I remember being, no problem running Doom on a 486 DX25 with 4MB of RAM, but the rose tinted glasses might be filtering things a bit.

It didn't like Duke Nukem though, even when I assigned 16mb of the hard drive to behave as virtual memory - oh the swappage and the 1FPS as it pulled animation frames into RAM.

We don't talk about what happened when mother dearest powered the machine off when I was decompressing the HDD to install OS/2, however. Ok, we do - HDD gibbered, and being about 11 and there being no internet, I had no realistic way to fix it. In the bin it went :(
You could do a lot of stuff with an optimised dos4gw boot disc. Punting most stuff from base ram into extended ram made the most difference. Tie fighter and x wing needed this the most and took many hours of tuning before you could play. Kids these days don’t know they’re born!

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by dinny_g » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:56 pm

:roll:
DeskJockey wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:19 pm
Oooh. The DX2-66! That was the PC we all wanted to play Doom on in high school. The insane performance of that CPU...
This - nearly cost me my 2nd year Uni exams...

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by DeskJockey » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:01 pm

dinny_g wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:56 pm
:roll:
DeskJockey wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:19 pm
Oooh. The DX2-66! That was the PC we all wanted to play Doom on in high school. The insane performance of that CPU...
This - nearly cost me my 2nd year Uni exams...

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I do. Never sold in Denmark AFAIK, but a friend from school bought a top of the range one in the states and took it home on the plane.
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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by dinny_g » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:13 pm

They had a factory in Ireland so always had deals on.

Think I still paid £1000 odd for it in 1997... :shock:
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Post by integrale_evo » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:39 pm

Oh well, it's got a bid on it now so no messing around with it ( the mrs will be chuffed at least 😂)

Yeah, doom was a weird one, was doom 2 a bit more demanding?

There was something odd going on with it, I eventually worked out that if I ran a demo of some game which came with a magazine before dropping to dos for doom it would run way quicker and full screen.

I did think that with my computer knowledge gained since ( and being able to use the internet to look stuff up ) I might have been able to get it to work properly, but tbh I've probably forgotten more than I've learnt since as pcs have become easier to use!
Cheers, Harry

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by integrale_evo » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:40 pm

Cheers, Harry

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by Zonda_ » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:32 am

Ah this takes me back, my dad and I queued at 5 in the morning outside a new branch of Staples that was opening. They were doing a loss leader sale and had 5 Compaq Pressario 486s that retailed at £1500, I bought one for £500, got hooked on PCs and sold it for £1400 3 months later. I replaces it with something much more powerful but I can't remember what! I remember buying Doom for 99p at the same time.

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by JonMad » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:54 am

Ooh, get you and your fancy 486DXs. Elonex 486SX20 here. And I still have a 286 laptop in the loft, though whether it would even boot up I don’t know. XTree Gold ftw.
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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by Beany » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:56 pm

Oh, my one was an 486 SX25, not A DX - must have missed that typo :oops:

Also had Tseng Labs ET600* SVGA graphics, which were pretty fucking terrible.

*May be 6000? I can never find info about it on the internet even these days

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Re: Windows 3.11

Post by DeskJockey » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:10 pm

Beany wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:56 pm
Oh, my one was an 486 SX25, not A DX - must have missed that typo :oops:

Also had Tseng Labs ET600* SVGA graphics, which were pretty fucking terrible.

*May be 6000? I can never find info about it on the internet even these days
That's pretty much my first PC's specs. 4 MB ram, 200 MB hard drive, 3.5" floppy and later a used pro audio spectrum sound card and a single speed CD-ROM drive with a proprietary ISA "SCSI" controller.
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