Bye Bye Boris!

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Stop feeding the troll!
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Orange Cola wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:54 pm
Stop feeding the troll!
Aww but I'm bored and there's only Celebrity Masterchef on...

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Zonda_ wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:56 pm
Orange Cola wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:54 pm
Stop feeding the troll!
Aww but I'm bored and there's only Celebrity Masterchef on...
You’re only cementing the gammon. No one likes cemented gammon.
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Orange Cola wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:59 pm
Zonda_ wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:56 pm
Orange Cola wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:54 pm
Stop feeding the troll!
Aww but I'm bored and there's only Celebrity Masterchef on...
You’re only cementing the gammon. No one likes cemented gammon.
True, I don't think he even voted Leave anyway.

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Welp, no snap election.

Also, this is hilarious.


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Those stats are pretty meaningless though as you well know, they’re all to do with Brexit rather than “normal” politics.

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Rich B wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:25 am
Those stats are pretty meaningless though as you well know, they’re all to do with Brexit rather than “normal” politics.
Quite.

I was reading a Peston piece the other day, and he seemed to be suggesting that there could be a softening of the DUP's position on having a regulatory border in the Irish Sea. That BJ will come back with a renegotiated deal without the backstop, and that if his hardline ERGers refuse to back the deal in Parliament that they'll also be joining the Tory remainers in the dole queue i.e. that BJ may be willing to bring the Tory party to the brink in order to get a deal across the line before 31st Oct.

That deadline's still a long way off yet though and, let's be honest, anything could happen between now and then.

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There's still a lot of people under the impression that Boris is playing 4 dimensional chess to pull out some masterstroke, while the evidence is mounting up that he's actually a fucking idiot :lol:.
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Swervin_Mervin wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:30 am
That deadline's still a long way off yet though and, let's be honest, anything could happen between now and then.
There's certainly no chance of him losing any more Parliamentary votes in the next 5 weeks :lol:

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Jobbo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:43 am
Swervin_Mervin wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:30 am
That deadline's still a long way off yet though and, let's be honest, anything could happen between now and then.
There's certainly no chance of him losing any more Parliamentary votes in the next 5 weeks :lol:
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Boris is taking back control.

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ZedLeg wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:32 am
There's still a lot of people under the impression that Boris is playing 4 dimensional chess to pull out some masterstroke, while the evidence is mounting up that he's actually a fucking idiot :lol:.
It's really quite staggering.

He's consistently been a lying, racist, sexist buffoon with no real political nouse since he came off the backbenches.

Why did anyone expect anything else other than a bumbling fuck knuckle once he was in power?

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Beany wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:24 am
ZedLeg wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:32 am
There's still a lot of people under the impression that Boris is playing 4 dimensional chess to pull out some masterstroke, while the evidence is mounting up that he's actually a fucking idiot :lol:.
It's really quite staggering.

He's consistently been a lying, racist, sexist buffoon with no real political nouse since he came off the backbenches.

Why did anyone expect anything else other than a bumbling fuck knuckle once he was in power?
He's like Trump in that the plebs simply refuse to see it, I overheard a guy in the pub saying what a great job he was doing and how he felt sorry for him?! That's the biggest problem you're up against, people who will vote for him simply because they see good old Boris here to save the country and don't pay a blind bit of attention to what he's actually doing mainly as it's way to hard for them to understand.

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Apparently he's likely to do worse than Theresa if there were to be a general election today, so perhaps he's lucky that he's lost that vote twice. He's also seemingly ruled out a pact with the Brexit Party to push through No Deal, though when an election actually happens that's likely to be revisited.

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Boris is a one-trick pony, but the one trick is a good one, namely convincing the hard of thinking and educationally-substandard into believing him to be some form of eccentric, gung-ho, get-the-job-done genius, whereas in reality he's just a fucking wanker who needs to be inhumanely destroyed.

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His greatest political act since becoming the PM has been to repeatedly call JC a chicken.

To the extent where they made up a poster of him in a chicken suit, and sent 'JFC' branded chicken to the press corp.
I was reading a Peston piece the other day, and he seemed to be suggesting that there could be a softening of the DUP's position on having a regulatory border in the Irish Sea. That BJ will come back with a renegotiated deal without the backstop, and that if his hardline ERGers refuse to back the deal in Parliament that they'll also be joining the Tory remainers in the dole queue i.e. that BJ may be willing to bring the Tory party to the brink in order to get a deal across the line before 31st Oct.
So I don't think that's likely.

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Of course, what Johnson and Cummings are really doing is using No Deal as a threat to Parliament and the country, NOT the EU. He'll threaten No Deal, everyone will baulk and at the last moment he'll resurrect May's WA with a couple of minor detail changes and go "it's this or disaster". That's why he's so pissed off at No Deal getting stymied.
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NotoriousREV wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:36 pm
Of course, what Johnson and Cummings are really doing is using No Deal as a threat to Parliament and the country, NOT the EU. He'll threaten No Deal, everyone will baulk and at the last moment he'll resurrect May's WA with a couple of minor detail changes and go "it's this or disaster". That's why he's so pissed off at No Deal getting stymied.
And now when Parliament sits again he'll have the options of May's deal or remaining. Which leads almost inevitably to a second referendum.

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We can but hope.
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Jobbo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:52 pm
NotoriousREV wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:36 pm
Of course, what Johnson and Cummings are really doing is using No Deal as a threat to Parliament and the country, NOT the EU. He'll threaten No Deal, everyone will baulk and at the last moment he'll resurrect May's WA with a couple of minor detail changes and go "it's this or disaster". That's why he's so pissed off at No Deal getting stymied.
And now when Parliament sits again he'll have the options of May's deal or remaining. Which leads almost inevitably to a second referendum.
Regardless of your political position, if he has fucked it up so badly that it gets to that stage, that would be amazing, and one of the biggest political own goals since, well, ever at this scale?

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