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Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:31 am
by Swervin_Mervin
nuttinnew wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:12 am
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:44 pm
Orange Cola wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:53 pm

It might surprise you to know pilots can’t control wind gusts. Or the rest of the weather for that matter. RTFP.
So fvcking what?

So why did they instantly assume the pilot's a bellend rather than think fvck me it's windy? Especially in a country renowned for talking about the weather.

Easy now chaps, no stress, no worries.
Christ it's not difficult. Fear of flying is an irrational fear. People do not respond rationally when the fear kicks in. :roll:

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:43 am
by JLv3.0
I didn't get that, I must admit. 'Fuck we're going to die immediately' would seem a more appropriate kneejerk response :lol:

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:00 am
by Swervin_Mervin
JLv3.0 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:43 am I didn't get that, I must admit. 'Fuck we're going to die immediately' would seem a more appropriate kneejerk response :lol:
Really? Whilst my normal reaction is to go ultra quiet, and try to crush the armrests with my bare hands, I'm sure I've probably uttered "what the fvck is this cvnt playing at?" before now. :lol:

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:52 am
by dinny_g
Hardest part of a failed landing and fly around was trying not to show to my son just how bloody terrified I was the second time around...

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:08 am
by JLv3.0
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:00 am
JLv3.0 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:43 am I didn't get that, I must admit. 'Fuck we're going to die immediately' would seem a more appropriate kneejerk response :lol:
Really? Whilst my normal reaction is to go ultra quiet, and try to crush the armrests with my bare hands, I'm sure I've probably uttered "what the fvck is this cvnt playing at?" before now. :lol:
As someone who has flown millions of miles, and was terrified of flying for the worst part of a decade, it never even occurred to me to blame the pilot rather than the prevailing weather conditions :D

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:10 pm
by tim
We’re flying home this afternoon. I’m hoping the work experience kid is on holiday for this one. I’m good with any kind of antics in the air, because air, but a massive fucking plane tooling about on the ground at 150 mph I could do without.

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:19 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
dinny_g wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:52 am Hardest part of a failed landing and fly around was trying not to show to my son just how bloody terrified I was the second time around...
If there's one thing I've learned from flying with our lad it's to bury any signs of anxiety as deep as possible. He should enjoy it while it's fun. He's got the rest of his adult life to develop and deal with his own phobia if it happens :lol:

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:23 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
JLv3.0 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:08 am
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:00 am
JLv3.0 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:43 am I didn't get that, I must admit. 'Fuck we're going to die immediately' would seem a more appropriate kneejerk response :lol:
Really? Whilst my normal reaction is to go ultra quiet, and try to crush the armrests with my bare hands, I'm sure I've probably uttered "what the fvck is this cvnt playing at?" before now. :lol:
As someone who has flown millions of miles, and was terrified of flying for the worst part of a decade, it never even occurred to me to blame the pilot rather than the prevailing weather conditions :D
I thought at least you might get it :lol: To be clear - people may utter things they don't necessarily mean when they're shitting their pants. They aren't thinking straight. It's a release.

A bit like when you stub your toe, or hammer your own finger - you may wish to physically or verbally assault the nearest person for the next 2 minutes, but it doesn't mean you blame them ;)

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:11 pm
by dinny_g
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:19 pm
dinny_g wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:52 am Hardest part of a failed landing and fly around was trying not to show to my son just how bloody terrified I was the second time around...
If there's one thing I've learned from flying with our lad it's to bury any signs of anxiety as deep as possible. He should enjoy it while it's fun. He's got the rest of his adult life to develop and deal with his own phobia if it happens :lol:
I'm normally pretty solid flying (I flew into and out of Des Moines enough times during the Tornado Season to be pretty calm in turbulence ) but this was a Ryanair flight and.... well, that's enough, I'll leave it there... :lol:

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:18 pm
by Orange Cola
JLv3.0 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:08 am
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:00 am
JLv3.0 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:43 am I didn't get that, I must admit. 'Fuck we're going to die immediately' would seem a more appropriate kneejerk response :lol:
Really? Whilst my normal reaction is to go ultra quiet, and try to crush the armrests with my bare hands, I'm sure I've probably uttered "what the fvck is this cvnt playing at?" before now. :lol:
As someone who has flown millions of miles, and was terrified of flying for the worst part of a decade, it never even occurred to me to blame the pilot rather than the prevailing weather conditions :D
Fankyow. At any point did you think during the landing phase the pilot was chucking it around like Beany in his youth in a Sierra in a muddy field just for a bit of fun?

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:26 am
by JLv3.0
Not once. Seriously, never even crossed my mind.

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:13 pm
by scotta
oops soz we didnt activate the safety thingy you paid for. Sorry about that...

AOA disagree warning not activated on some of the planes that were ordered with it. Another nail for boeing.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/04/3 ... d_reports/

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 2:26 pm
by Simon
Yeah I saw that one. As I said before, Boeing are so screwed over this. I predict multiple lawsuits from families and carriers.

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 4:05 pm
by Swervin_Mervin

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 11:28 am
by jamcg
Not a max, not a technical fault, but still not a good time for something like this to happen in a Boeing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48159676

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 11:20 am
by jamcg
Boeing just sound incompetent at this stage......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48174797

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:45 pm
by Orange Cola
They’re still grounded aren’t they? Can’t be fun working there at the moment.

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:14 am
by jamcg
FAA have found a “potential risk” when using simulators on the supposedly fixed 737 max software

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48752932

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:31 am
by Simon
More here

Re: 737 Max

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:59 am
by JonMad
Simon wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:31 am More here
Impressive that they found this in testing, where they had presumably tested it internally and not found it.