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Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:21 am**

JLv3.0 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:04 am I wasn't looking to allocate blame, rather am interested, in the light of new information, how one plane was recoverable and one wasn't. Have you lot synchronised your menstrual cycles or something?

Worse. I'm in Hull.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:26 am**

Simon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:21 am
JLv3.0 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:04 am I wasn't looking to allocate blame, rather am interested, in the light of new information, how one plane was recoverable and one wasn't. Have you lot synchronised your menstrual cycles or something?
Worse. I'm in Hull.

What did you do to deserve that?

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:15 pm**

Simon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:21 am
JLv3.0 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:04 am I wasn't looking to allocate blame, rather am interested, in the light of new information, how one plane was recoverable and one wasn't. Have you lot synchronised your menstrual cycles or something?
Worse. I'm in Hull.

Jesus Christ.

I'm so very sorry.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:17 pm**

mik wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:11 am
I suspect the earlier pilot suffered runaway auto-trim, switched auto-trim power off, trimmed manually and didn't then switch auto-trim back on. Maybe.

Thats what i'm reading.

My recommendation is to attach big red flashing leds on auto-trim off switches when an error is detected and zip tieing dishwasher accessories onto them to make them easier to turn off.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:12 pm**

NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:26 am
Simon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:21 am
JLv3.0 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:04 am I wasn't looking to allocate blame, rather am interested, in the light of new information, how one plane was recoverable and one wasn't. Have you lot synchronised your menstrual cycles or something?
Worse. I'm in Hull.
What did you do to deserve that?

Just popped up for a customer meeting. Home now and absolutely aching from 10+ hours in the car. I won't do that again (as in, there and back in one day, not 'going to Hull')

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:20 pm**

Another good update from this guy, examining how screwed Boeing are in this case.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:42 pm**

Just awful. Taking away control from the pilots for the fail.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:17 pm**

Simon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:20 pm Another good update from this guy, examining how screwed Boeing are in this case.

Excellent insights

Sounds like the crew had quite a fight

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:06 pm**

mik wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:17 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:20 pm Another good update from this guy, examining how screwed Boeing are in this case.

Excellent insights

Sounds like the crew had quite a fight

Jeez. That sounds horrendous.

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:10 am**

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethi ... um=ios_app

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:51 am**

NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:10 am https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethi ... um=ios_app

Holy shit

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:23 pm**

My thoughts exactly. Boeing really fucked up, it seems. Totally driven by the need to outsell the A320 and bollocks to safety.

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:53 pm**

Replacing an intuitive system (yank on stick to disable autotrim) with another button does not seem like a good idea, 20/20 hindsight.

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:02 pm**

NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:23 pm My thoughts exactly. Boeing really fucked up, it seems. Totally driven by the need to outsell the A320 and bollocks to safety.

There’s so many points where it’s fallen over, it looks like someone forgot to do any level of failure analysis. Amazed that escaped their own design processes.

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:27 pm**

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:38 pm**

Never rains etc. As it’s fascinating for some of you, I’ll add this latest issue for the 787 - http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guida ... -02-03.pdf

European aviation authority and airlines are happy to accept FAA advice; we’re pushing for an independent review.

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:06 pm**

Ok, so "If it's Boeing, I ain't going".

Got it.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:33 am**

For reasons best known to my brain, I had quite a restless nights sleep last night, finding myself quite stressed by some testing i had been asked to perform on a modified horizontal stabiliser design for the 737 max.

The process required procurement of both iberico and serrano ham legs, but at no point was their part in the testing process explained. Which caused me further confusion and frustration.

I think this issue should possibly be added to the list of things being looked at by the accident investigators.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:55 am**

mik wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:33 am For reasons best known to my brain, I had quite a restless nights sleep last night, finding myself quite stressed by some testing i had been asked to perform on a modified horizontal stabiliser design for the 737 max.

The process required procurement of both iberico and serrano ham legs, but at no point was their part in the testing process explained. Which caused me further confusion and frustration.

I think this issue should possibly be added to the list of things being looked at by the accident investigators.

Were you trying to cure the problem?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:29 pm**

NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:55 am
mik wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:33 am For reasons best known to my brain, I had quite a restless nights sleep last night, finding myself quite stressed by some testing i had been asked to perform on a modified horizontal stabiliser design for the 737 max.

The process required procurement of both iberico and serrano ham legs, but at no point was their part in the testing process explained. Which caused me further confusion and frustration.

I think this issue should possibly be added to the list of things being looked at by the accident investigators.
Were you trying to cure the problem?

I usually find myself roasting in similar circumstances.

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