FTAO: Simon
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FTAO: Simon
Do you have any pictures or can provide a detailed description of the soldering you did on your Mondeo's radio? Issue has become a bit more urgent as we're now driving home week after next (my sister just had her baby this morning) and I'd like a working/controllable radio for the near 2k miles we'll be doing over a week.
Local auto stereo place happy to help, but to get it done quickly they're asking for details.
Your help is much appreciated!
Local auto stereo place happy to help, but to get it done quickly they're asking for details.
Your help is much appreciated!
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Re: FTAO: Simon
Hi DJ. Just in a Starbucks with limited time so I'll write it up properly tonight when I get home - about 9pm ish. That ok?
I'm gonna caveat it with the fact that I don't _guarantee_ it'll fix it, but it's a possibility. Also worth doing the binnacle at the same time? That's where the canbus signal originates to turn it on in the first place.
I'm gonna caveat it with the fact that I don't _guarantee_ it'll fix it, but it's a possibility. Also worth doing the binnacle at the same time? That's where the canbus signal originates to turn it on in the first place.
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I'll take the help and the caveat. Very much appreciated.
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Cool. Speak later. I will re-emphasise the binnacle work. It's only an extra hour or so (and easy to remove from the vehicle) but mine accounted for 50% of my issues. Since I did both the radio and the binnacle 6 or so months ago it's been flawless.
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I'll take that as good odds. Drive safely and avoid Qashqais.
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Home.
OK, here's what you do with the radio.
Removal should be easy enough for your car stereo guy so I won't detail that. Then he'll need to get the lid off it, which *should* expose a couple of PCBs. One will be inside against the back panel of the unit. One will be inside on the 'floor' of it. The quadlock connector pins should poke through the back PCB. You'll want to get him to reflow the solder on all those, and then ideally the ones on the connector pins that link the two PCBs together.
Then, ideally, just quickly reflow any connections he can get too, noting that the ones above are the important ones he must do. I know it sounds excessive, but once in it should only take 5-10 minutes or so, especially if he's working with a hot air gun.
Refit
If he is going to look at the instrument cluster too then a similar principle applies. There's the main wiring connector that goes into a socket on the PCB. The pins of said socket should be soldered through on the back of said PCB, which is actually 'behind' the instrument faces. So he'll need to pop off the plexi clear cover of the instruments, then the black surround (all just clips). Then just pull off the needles of the four gauges so he can remove the PCB from the white shell. That should expose the solder joints for the wiring socket. Reflow those, and quickly any others that are available.
Plug the unit back into the car, then turn the car ignition on (but not the engine) to recenter the needle motors before putting the needles back on the gauges. I had to do this a few times to get it right. Unplug, replug, ignition on etc.
Hopefully with those too that should sort it. When the radio is playing up you should be able to isolate whether it's the radio or the instrument cluster that's the problem by banging, with your fist, the side of the centre console up towards the side of where the radio is, or alternatively the top left corner of the dash above the instrument cluster - This is where the cluster wiring socket is near. If either of those 'thumps' changes the behaviour of the fault then you're getting close.
Good luck, let me know how you get on.
OK, here's what you do with the radio.
Removal should be easy enough for your car stereo guy so I won't detail that. Then he'll need to get the lid off it, which *should* expose a couple of PCBs. One will be inside against the back panel of the unit. One will be inside on the 'floor' of it. The quadlock connector pins should poke through the back PCB. You'll want to get him to reflow the solder on all those, and then ideally the ones on the connector pins that link the two PCBs together.
Then, ideally, just quickly reflow any connections he can get too, noting that the ones above are the important ones he must do. I know it sounds excessive, but once in it should only take 5-10 minutes or so, especially if he's working with a hot air gun.
Refit
If he is going to look at the instrument cluster too then a similar principle applies. There's the main wiring connector that goes into a socket on the PCB. The pins of said socket should be soldered through on the back of said PCB, which is actually 'behind' the instrument faces. So he'll need to pop off the plexi clear cover of the instruments, then the black surround (all just clips). Then just pull off the needles of the four gauges so he can remove the PCB from the white shell. That should expose the solder joints for the wiring socket. Reflow those, and quickly any others that are available.
Plug the unit back into the car, then turn the car ignition on (but not the engine) to recenter the needle motors before putting the needles back on the gauges. I had to do this a few times to get it right. Unplug, replug, ignition on etc.
Hopefully with those too that should sort it. When the radio is playing up you should be able to isolate whether it's the radio or the instrument cluster that's the problem by banging, with your fist, the side of the centre console up towards the side of where the radio is, or alternatively the top left corner of the dash above the instrument cluster - This is where the cluster wiring socket is near. If either of those 'thumps' changes the behaviour of the fault then you're getting close.
Good luck, let me know how you get on.
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Re: FTAO: Simon
Will do! Thanks for the guidance. Will see what he says. Stay tuned (unlike my radio)!
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He would have to send it off to his specialist, so couldn't get it done in a week (we're off for half term and will be driving). I've bought a set of trim removal tools, so worst case scenario I can take the trim off and disconnect the radio, but it has been fine for the last few days.
If your offer of help still stands, I'm minded to take you up on it when we're back. Rather have it done by someone who has done it before, than someone that has to investigate it first.
If your offer of help still stands, I'm minded to take you up on it when we're back. Rather have it done by someone who has done it before, than someone that has to investigate it first.
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Yup, still happy to help one weekend. I've a couple of busy weekends coming up so we'll have to coordinate around that...
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That's would be great. I'll pm you when we're back.
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Re: FTAO: Simon
DeskJockey wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:26 am we're now driving home week after next (my sister just had her baby this morning) and I'd like a working/controllable radio for the near 2k miles we'll be doing over a week.
Your help is much appreciated!
Be sure to take her some used baby clothes when you drive the thousand miles home to se her.
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We are! Short of walking the best would be trains, but, ignoring the rather high costs, that would take two days and require multiple changes and stops.evostick wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:25 amDeskJockey wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:26 am we're now driving home week after next (my sister just had her baby this morning) and I'd like a working/controllable radio for the near 2k miles we'll be doing over a week.
Your help is much appreciated!
Be sure to take her some used baby clothes when you drive the thousand miles home to se her.
Save the planet!
I'm looking forward to hearing about your two week camping holiday in your garden.
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Re: FTAO: Simon
Caribbean again I expect but then I'm not the one pretending to GAF here.
Do DFDS not run direct ferries anymore then?.
Do DFDS not run direct ferries anymore then?.
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Clearly you don't. No, they've cancelled the service.
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He is just angry as the hippies keep stopping him in his Landy thinking he’s off to support the anti-frackers.
Dave!
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DJ - if it’s a girl Baby, get her a Music Box. You know, one with the pop up Ballerina...
Best gift for a girl baby and your sister will think you’re a legend...
Best gift for a girl baby and your sister will think you’re a legend...
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Errrr... I'm driving to Copenhagen, not the 1950s.
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