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Orange Cola wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:37 pm

jamcg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:41 pm Gotta love the engine penalty rules, because Gasly has used his allowance that stays with the car and Albon will start his first race with red bull from the back of the grid

As Coulthard says, it’s fucking stupid, they need a rethink. Why should the driver be punished and fans disappointed in this case? There needs to be another way of penalising the team I.e. docking constructors points.

jamcg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:08 pm

Orange Cola wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:37 pm

jamcg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:41 pm Gotta love the engine penalty rules, because Gasly has used his allowance that stays with the car and Albon will start his first race with red bull from the back of the grid

As Coulthard says, it’s fucking stupid, they need a rethink. Why should the driver be punished and fans disappointed in this case? There needs to be another way of penalising the team I.e. docking constructors points.

I’m not sure that would be a fair way to do it either, how would you differentiate between engine manufacturer works teams and customer teams, as they just buy their engines in. It’s a tough one really, the current scheme is complete bullshit though

Pete_ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:09 pm

jamcg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:08 pm

Orange Cola wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:37 pm

As Coulthard says, it’s fucking stupid, they need a rethink. Why should the driver be punished and fans disappointed in this case? There needs to be another way of penalising the team I.e. docking constructors points.

I’m not sure that would be a fair way to do it either, how would you differentiate between engine manufacturer works teams and customer teams, as they just buy their engines in. It’s a tough one really, the current scheme is complete bullshit though

You don't need to, just dock points from the team whose engine is replaced. If customer teams keep getting caught out by it they can change to a more reliable engine supplier.

NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:18 pm What did Leclerc have for breakfast? 3/4 of a second faster than everyone else.

Mito Man wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:04 pm Fucking terrible, been watching F2 for the past 2 years and I enjoyed his character.

FIA need to fix the tracks, if the runoff was gravel the other car wouldn’t have been going flat out 20 feet off the track limits... We have drivers in all categories going off track and driving at racing speed trying to minimise damage because it’s all tarmac.

Gavin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:41 pm I don't want to look at the footage and I am assuming it was all over very very fast but I did wonder of from now, if any G sensor is tripped on any car, a virtual safety car could be thrown immediately probably automatically. It could always be cancelled a few corners later of all is fine.

Even if it would not have saved anyone this time, like the halo and Bianchi, it may save someone in the future.

Gavin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:41 pm I don't want to look at the footage and I am assuming it was all over very very fast but I did wonder of from now, if any G sensor is tripped on any car, a virtual safety car could be thrown immediately probably automatically. It could always be cancelled a few corners later of all is fine.

Even if it would not have saved anyone this time, like the halo and Bianchi, it may save someone in the future.

Orange Cola wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:19 pm

Mito Man wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:04 pm
I think the problem is the car being able to bounce back into the track in a particularly fast and unsighted section. They’ll be looking at all circuits after this and seeing what can done. I think at Spa the first thing they’ll look to do is move the barrier right back and add to the tyre wall (it’s only a single or double layer deep)

I’ve watched the Indy 500 the last 2 years just because it’s been shown on Sky - the ‘Safer’ barriers do an incredible job and the car usually sticks to them. Just checked on wiki and it’s used on a few of the high speed F1 tracks where it’s narrow with not much run off but not at Spa!

Edit - I’ve fucked the quoting - sorry.

Mito Man wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:04 pm

Orange Cola wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:19 pm

Mito Man wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:04 pm
I think the problem is the car being able to bounce back into the track in a particularly fast and unsighted section. They’ll be looking at all circuits after this and seeing what can done. I think at Spa the first thing they’ll look to do is move the barrier right back and add to the tyre wall (it’s only a single or double layer deep)

I’ve watched the Indy 500 the last 2 years just because it’s been shown on Sky - the ‘Safer’ barriers do an incredible job and the car usually sticks to them. Just checked on wiki and it’s used on a few of the high speed F1 tracks where it’s narrow with not much run off but not at Spa!

Edit - I’ve fucked the quoting - sorry.

Looking at that section of the track properly it seems to be left as is because it’s a ‘historic’ circuit much like Monaco. And that does hack me off, the new dedicated circuits have to comply with all the safety regs at great expense to be even considered for an F1 race yet if it’s a brand new city course then they’ll happily waive the various safety elements needed to make sure the race happens