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Keir Starmer. Don't know much about him but he came across pretty well in interviews I've seen.


Awaits comments informing me he is actually the anti-Christ....
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From what I know about him, I think he’s a decent bloke with a sensible head on his shoulders. I’m just not sure if he has the charisma to win over the public.
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I preferred Nandy, but he's ok AFAIK.
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I just always got the sense that Nandy was a bit gaffe-prone but couldn’t tell you why.
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That was radio 4s favourite story until Corona - it’s hardly even been mentioned since. He was always the favourite though.
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I would’ve quite liked Rebecca Long-Bailey to get it but it was always going to be Starmer.

A walk back towards the centre will probably gain them voters, just hope it doesn’t end up too New Labour.
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I wonder where all “Karl Marx was basically a Tory” ultra-left wankers are going to end up?
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I could see some sort of momentum left wing party trying to get going if Labour goes very noticeably towards the centre but Starmer has said that he’s going to try and balance it.

Hard to do when a lot on the left see the liberal centre as spineless bootlickers though :lol:
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The right choice, makes them actually electable. But in the face of the massive Tory majority he has it all still to do.
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NotoriousREV wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:02 pm I wonder where all “Karl Marx was basically a Tory” ultra-left wankers are going to end up?
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Jobbo wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:23 pm The right choice, makes them actually electable. But in the face of the massive Tory majority he has it all still to do.
Agreed. The last election was the first ever when I didn't vote Labour. (Threw it away on a Lib-Dem lost deposit candidate). If Jeremy C had been successful I'd have expected to be shot at dawn as a Porsche driving Rolex wearer. :oops:
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I see the internal fighting has already started in earnest on Twitter. I’ve seen a couple of tweets calling Starmer “Tory Boy”. You never see Conservatives calling members of their own party “basically Marxist” do you? And that’s why the left will always be a joke to so many people. They’re not just divided, they’re stratified.
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I think he's a good choice.
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Well he ain’t a terrorist sympathising extremist supporting Marxist cunt so may do alright.
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He's more central and that for me is good which keeps the current mob more in line.
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Broccers wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:39 pm He's more central and that for me is good which keeps the current mob more in line.
We’ve missed having an effective opposition, that’s for damm sure.
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Apparently he was the man who decided there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Jimmy Savile. He has a hard job, given the like of Margaret Hodge and Jess Phillips seem to exist entirely to try and destroy from within.

If Starmer was serious, he should kick out all the back stabbers, same as De Pfeffel did with the moderates. It is a shame as Starmer screams New Labour and his voting record is not too good, from a lefty point of view.

So the choice next election, in England, may well be Right Wing or Centrist! :(
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Gavin wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:53 am Apparently he was the man who decided there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Jimmy Savile. He has a hard job, given the like of Margaret Hodge and Jess Phillips seem to exist entirely to try and destroy from within.

If Starmer was serious, he should kick out all the back stabbers, same as De Pfeffel did with the moderates. It is a shame as Starmer screams New Labour and his voting record is not too good, from a lefty point of view.

So the choice next election, in England, may well be Right Wing or Centrist! :(
Thats one more option than you had this time round.
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Not sure Gavin is ever happy unless we go full communist left.
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Rich B wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:56 am
Gavin wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:53 am Apparently he was the man who decided there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Jimmy Savile. He has a hard job, given the like of Margaret Hodge and Jess Phillips seem to exist entirely to try and destroy from within.

If Starmer was serious, he should kick out all the back stabbers, same as De Pfeffel did with the moderates. It is a shame as Starmer screams New Labour and his voting record is not too good, from a lefty point of view.

So the choice next election, in England, may well be Right Wing or Centrist! :(
Thats one more option than you had this time round.
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