New Top Gear

[Simon]

I really really like the Taycan. If I had the money for a sports car that's where it'd go, no question. It's electric, so as a second car, natch But the 2 speed gearbox, the work that's gone into the battery management, the way it handles. All so much better than a fart machine.

[ShockDiamonds]

Bemuses me a bit that we've spent the last 20 years bemoaning cars getting heavier and heavier, casting frustrated glances towards RS6 Audis and the like and their two tonne plus kerbweights, and yet Porsche release an electric car weighing mostly the same if not more, and everybody calls it a sportscar.

[RobYob]

Bemuses me a bit that we've spent the last 20 years bemoaning cars getting heavier and heavier, casting frustrated glances towards RS6 Audis and the like and their two tonne plus kerbweights, and yet Porsche release an electric car weighing mostly the same if not more, and everybody calls it a sportscar.

Centre of gravity is going to be several feet lower than your typical SUV though isn't it. GTR and Veyron helped to reframe the mass vs performance argument too.

[ShockDiamonds]

Having driven the GTS Panamera and my hybrid, I know which one handles better - the 300kgs of batteries in mine means it just goes around corners, it doesn't offer up any options to adjust things. I've not seen the feature, but presumably it's the usual 'stick-n-go' around the circuit and not necessarily talking about nuanced handling?

[RobYob]

I've not seen the feature

You want that other thread, "People not watching Topgear"

[scotta]

Having driven the GTS Panamera and my hybrid, I know which one handles better - the 300kgs of batteries in mine means it just goes around corners, it doesn't offer up any options to adjust things. I've not seen the feature, but presumably it's the usual 'stick-n-go' around the circuit and not necessarily talking about nuanced handling?

didnt look particularly stick and go at 2:00

[Mito Man]

Yep, that’ll be 700 pixie donkeys and software allowing that. Did seem to corner very flat and nicely in the hot lap though.

[mik]

Now that Baja feature was genuinely gripping and superb

[Maurice]

Have just undone all the good work by having Laurence Fox on however.

[Mito Man]

When the Baja feature started I thought that POS won’t make it to the end. Shame it ended early otherwise they may have left out the SIARPC shite.

[Rich B]

Have just undone all the good work by having Laurence Fox on however.

i ffwded the “star” bit, but I genuinely did not recognise the guy at all. Is he famous?

[integrale_evo]

No idea who either of them were.

Thought it was all set to be a terrible episode but enjoyed the Megane bit with several chuckles and banter that seems more natural and less scripted than any of the other presenter combinations top gear has had.

[Mito Man]

I want to know what nutter would spend £72k on a Megane

[Orange Cola]

I want to know what nutter would spend £72k on a Megane

I’ll let you know when one turns up to the local car meet in about a fortnights time

How many are going to try and get their old Meganes to look the same and claim they’re 95% the same for a fraction of the price?

[Ascender]

Have just undone all the good work by having Laurence Fox on however.

i ffwded the “star” bit, but I genuinely did not recognise the guy at all. Is he famous?

I had no idea who he was until there was a kerfuffle on twitter recently where it appears he's a bit of a right wing racist cvnt.

Emilia Fox is a proper honey though.

[Rich B]

£20k+ of that is CF wheels and ceramic brakes.

[unzippy]

He was married to Billie Piper.

[Rich B]

He was married to Billie Piper.

is that what he’s famous for?! They’re scraping the barrel this season!

[scotta]

Have just undone all the good work by having Laurence Fox on however.

i ffwded the “star” bit, but I genuinely did not recognise the guy at all. Is he famous?

I did also wonder “Who the fox that?”

[mik]

I want to know what nutter would spend £72k on a Megane

I just checked and both of my hands are firmly down.