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OK, I'm going to try one more time. What if we were talking about healthcare instead of education? Would it be acceptable to you that 50% of hospitals took public funding, but were only willing to treat patients of a particular faith? Would it be acceptable to insist that patients treated at those ...

We're on exactly the same page - Richard Dawkins is a fucking cunt. Just as bad, if not worse, than the sky-fairy brigade. Definitely worse than most, he mixes a healthy measure of intellectual bullying into his zealotry if you don't agree with him. Dawkins has a conviction in his opinions to an ex...

Nobody in this country is made to go to a church school. Everyone is there by choice or due to apathy. Only a few years ago, the choices in my catchment area were catholic school or CoS school. So, really my choices were pick a side or be excluded from mainstream education. Now, the CoS school is o...

As for accepting atheists, my Twitter stream this weekend included 2 different atheists telling me that I'm being an atheist wrong, repeatedly shouting at me that gods don't exist (despite me saying the same thing), and calling for the absolute banning of all religions. Apparently some people reall...

Schools are for education, publicly funded and compulsory. Churches are for religion (if that's your bag), are privately funded and voluntary. Don't get the two mixed up. In your opinion. Yes. I believe this is a discussion board. It's where people express their opinions. And yet you're stating you...

Where did I say ban anything? And what "world view" have I stated, beyond objecting to specific doctrines being imposed on children via an education system which should be impartial. Right here. Your world view is that religion shouldn't be "imposed on children via an education syste...

Nefarious wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:28 am Schools are for education, publicly funded and compulsory. Churches are for religion (if that's your bag), are privately funded and voluntary. Don't get the two mixed up.

In your opinion.

Anecdote != data

Where did I say ban anything? And what "world view" have I stated, beyond objecting to specific doctrines being imposed on children via an education system which should be impartial. Right here. Your world view is that religion shouldn't be "imposed on children via an education syste...

Nefarious wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:30 am why do we still allow a medieval protection racket run our education system?

Sounds to me like you want the practice banned right here ^

The point is they get any funding from the state. IMO you either teach holistically and impartially, in which case you're a school and get government funding, or you base admission and syllabus on religious affiliations, in which case you're part of the PR machine for one cult or another, and you c...

As for religious indoctrination, if this is the aim of the schools, they're doing a piss-poor job of it; my 13 year old attended a C of E Primary and is currently at a C of E high school. He's a devout atheist. Good on your lad! Religious indoctrination doesn't have to mean the school is a producti...

Carlos, hold me back, man!

None of those things happen though. I'm a governor at a C of E school and I'm a devout atheist. As are my kids who attend the school. Church schools don't get additional resources from the government, they get less, because they are funded in part by the sky-pixie crew. Religious indoctrination? Wh...

Lots of nice examples of accepting atheists and not being too bothered here, but isn’t the point of this thread that Dave! would have had to prove he attended church to get his kiddie into the first option listed? It doesn't work like that. The school can set it's entry criteria, the same as every ...

Carlos wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:45 am For anyone not on Twitter , you really don't want to engage Rev on this one, it will go on for days and he will dominate the hallway

I don’t know why this has become a theme for me this past week

unzippy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:36 am

NotoriousREV wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:22 am
That’s terrible, but it’s also not representative of all faith schools. Additionally, no one is forcing you to send your kids there. HTH.

I think you will find Jesus forces the parents to send their kids there. HTH.

I have a friend in south London who had to pretend to be Greek Orthordox for three years so her son could go to the only school in the catchment area without regular stabbings/shootings. In the UK we have c.10% church attendance, and 53% self-identify as "having no religion", so why do we...

This particular "faith" school: "The children are told what jobs they will do and who they will marry. They were not being equipped to live in the outside world. The Brethren were cutting off the children's pathways." Most modern novels were banned, pages were removed even from ...

I have a friend in south London who had to pretend to be Greek Orthordox for three years so her son could go to the only school in the catchment area without regular stabbings/shootings. In the UK we have c.10% church attendance, and 53% self-identify as "having no religion", so why do we...